Hiro Hamada's copyright discussion

[adamaH_oriH]

She a spider girl thingy


I may not be a fan of undertale but I do think Doom needs more cute mods

I think My Hiro Hamada mod crosses with cute, Badass, nerdy, geeky, and awesome all in one.

think about it:

Big Hero 6's Main character teams up with Gorillaz's Guitarist, Noodle (Teen version, Obviously) to go to various worlds and fight the villans from the first 30 years of Doctor Who (most enemies taken from the Andrew Brockhouse 1996 TC Mod), the Galactic Empire from Star Wars, Xenomorphs from Aliens, Scorponok and Alpha Quintesson from Energon, The Tarantula from the 1955 movie from the same name, Heck, even

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UNICRON from Transformers!

It's like a HUGE crossover, ALL in Doom!

OH! Let's not forget: Music from Queen, The Prodigy, Kevin Macleod, Gorillaz, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Original Doom Soundtrack, and More!

[leileilol]

OH! Let's not forget: Music from Queen, The Prodigy, Kevin Macleod, Gorillaz, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Original Doom Soundtrack, and More!

i know exactly what kind of wad you're making





don't

[Captain J]

You may make it privately but please, donut post it in public unless you think the copyright law is your arch-nemesis.

[Minigunner]

Magnum opuses are very likely to fail. Be realistic in your mod making.

[Nevander]

He can make whatever he wants. Telling him not to do something won't stop him. Copyright law is just in place to hold back creative minds.

[Cage]

]Big Hero 6's Main character teams up with Gorillaz's Guitarist, Noodle (Teen version, Obviously) to go to various worlds and fight the villans from the first 30 years of Doctor Who (most enemies taken from the Andrew Brockhouse 1996 TC Mod), the Galactic Empire from Star Wars, Xenomorphs from Aliens, Scorponok and Alpha Quintesson from Energon, The Tarantula from the 1955 movie from the same name, Heck, even UNICRON from Transformers!

Don't. Just don't. I know you're excited but those ideas never work. It's like if you put all of your favorite food/meals you really love and put them together in one bowl (with disregard, if it's soup, main course or dessert) and try to eat. It's got all the amazing stuff so it should be even more amazing, right?

Copyright law is just in place to hold back creative minds.

As a content creator myself I feel like strangling people when I see bullshit like this. I guess you don't mind random people coming in from the from the street and taking a shit in your bed for example, and you just go and take the stuff you want without paying in shops, right? Why limit freedom and creativity, right?

[Nevander]

Copyright law is just in place to hold back creative minds.

As a content creator myself I feel like strangling people when I see bullshit like this. I guess you don't mind random people coming in from the from the street and taking a shit in your bed for example, and you just go and take the stuff you want without paying in shops, right? Why limit freedom and creativity, right?

And as I expected, my statement gets misinterpreted. Never did I say that proper credit and such shouldn't be given. You should always say where something is from, who the original author is, and what you're using it for. If it's something that the original author charges money for (like music), then you should never charge for it yourself. It would be like saying you're Metallica and you sell their music yourself. That is a big problem, but you should be able to use music freely for something like a non-commercial mod for a game.

Nothing is more annoying than wanting to make something and you find a perfect song or picture to use but OH WAIT... you can't. Copyright gets in the way. Stops you from making what you want and putting it out for others to ENJOY. That really bothers me. Part of the reason why I never put up YouTube videos anymore. Every single one I put up gets matched third party content, and I've even had to dispute some. I don't monetize my channel, never will. I find it ridiculous how I can't use a song in my video when I'm not monetizing, meanwhile the actual author of the song can put up their video with the song and monetize it all day long.

If you still disagree with this, then I'm sorry. I feel like you should be able to do what you want with resources as long as you credit properly and don't "steal" things, and or charge for things you shouldn't. You know, the obvious stuff.

EDIT: I should also add that yes, it would bother me too if someone used something I made and didn't credit me. If they use it and say they did it, I'd be pissed. BUT if they use it without asking but credit me, then I have no problem. Is when people freak out and don't even let people use their content period is what annoys me.

[Redead-ITA]

basicly you mean that
as long is free and is credited to the original author copyright dosent strike
but if not your gonna get raped by copyright and pay a lot of money

[YukesVonFaust]

I think My Hiro Hamada mod crosses with cute, Badass, nerdy, geeky, and awesome all in one.
*occasional cringy nonsense*

It's like a HUGE crossover, ALL in Doom!
Oh and Let's not forget: Music from Queen, The Prodigy, Kevin Macleod, Gorillaz, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Original Doom Soundtrack, and More!

Okay, i appreciate your hiro hamada sprites but don't.
For the love of all things Doom-y, Don't.

[InsanityBringer]

Nothing is more annoying than wanting to make something and you find a perfect song or picture to use but OH WAIT... you can't. Copyright gets in the way. Stops you from making what you want and putting it out for others to ENJOY. That really bothers me.

Just because you feel that people will like the resultant content doesn't mean that everyone should instantly be 100% okay with you taking their resource and shoving it into your own resource, even with credit. There's tons of artists out there. Hell, there's tons of art resources out there. You can find someone to make a new asset that not only will live up to your expectations, but might make your mod better by introducing some sort of visual consistency, since they're working with a known style.

I'd be a little annoyed if something I made ended up in a certain incredibly popular mod without being asked, even with credit, because although I'd get exposure, do you honestly think the average fan is going to go "hey, that asset looks cool, lets go figure out who made it!" and then go looking for my stuff

To be fair though, my content is shit and no one wants to use it. Instead, if you want real context, go to the Guncaster thread in the Projects forum, read the big disclaimer at the top of the thread, and click the link to the readme file, and read through it.

[Cage]

Sorry, but the time, effort and accumulated skill required to make something happen are more than enough to give the original author right to do with their product WHAT THEY WANT - whatever it is, demanding compensation, or blocking other use that originally intended, putting any other limit, burning it, hurling their today's dinner all over it or whatever. If it wasn't for them you wouldn't be able to even point a finger to it or you wouldn't even think of creating such thing at all, so you're not entitled to anything, free or whatever use.

Also keep in mind, that if something is released commercially, free exposure of the same material potentially hurts the sales and thus - the compensation going to the author. Do you realize that in many circumstances, that compensation allows the works to be made at all? Or allows them to grow bigger and better and further push bounds?

"Oh wow, nice to meet you, your music is amazing! When's the next album?"
"I'm taking extra shifts at the Z-Mart, I should have enough saved for some studio time in 4 months."

Or maybe it's more like "Hey, it's Metallica, they're rich already" - can't they get rich if they made work that is apparently desired? If the compensation they got is way beyond needs of the individuals, is it wrong to use the riches to safeguard of your children of relatives? What if that excess allows you not only to secure the future of your family but also help noble causes?

One thing I think should be open and shared is knowledge - the knowledge that allows all those wonderful works we enjoy to happen. But there are two problems with that:
1. It still requires time and effort to make something, which sadly, turns is out to be a problem for the many. That's one thing that concerns me the most with the state of the affairs in the world - people are growing to be more and more of lazy and entitled slobs who want to get everything on a plate without lifting finger. WALL-E seems to be a likely future.
2. Even if someone makes a book about concepts already present for a long time (for example), for example they might make the presentation of those concepts so excellent it makes them a lot more useful and accessible - isn't that some good work, that is worth to pay money for? And I'm thinking of non copyrightable concepts, like for example perspective in art, or technique of making frying meals - as opposed to directly ripping off IP which is more along what we're discussing here.

I think that's all I have to say. If you still don't agree with me, give me a newsletter about your released projects of whatever kind. I'll try to use them in the most abusive way I can, however I'll give you proper credit - we'll see how cool you're going to be with all that. Also you should tell your boss or your clients that your work can be used just if they give credit. If you don't mind being homeless and hungry (and probably unhealthy too)

[adamaH_oriH]

credit will be given in a whole text document of its own.

all objects used shall belong to their respective owners.

wait... this mod was to be private with public help...

AW CRAP.

[Devianteist]

Can we get back on topic? Y'know, sprites n' stuff? I'd hate to see an admin/mod come in here and throw everybody out by the scruff of their necks.

[adamaH_oriH]

OH! Let's not forget: Music from Queen, The Prodigy, Kevin Macleod, Gorillaz, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Original Doom Soundtrack, and More!

i know exactly what kind of wad you're making





don't

What kind?

what's a Magnum Opus?

(whole minute of silence)

Mod build shall continue. I ain't wastin 2 whole years (maybe 3) of hard work.
End of Conversation.
continue to previous topic before I.

[InsanityBringer]

Mod build shall continue. I ain't wastin 2 whole years (maybe 3) of hard work.
End of Conversation.

The amount of time spent is irrelevant. Sometimes, you just need to stand back on something you've done, take a long, critical look at your work, and see if its worth pursuing.

Even if you have intense emotional attachment to the thing, it may not be worth it sometimes.

Reminder that if people never did this, Doom 4 would be Call of Doom and probably would not do very well.