Doombuilder prefabs?

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Doombuilder prefabs?

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Anyone know of or have any Doombuilder prefabs I can use for Mapping?
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Some time ago, there was a prefab database set up. It never got very far, unfortunately. A prefab database would be a nice thing to have. I think it still exists, but I don't know the url. Due to it not getting far, there wasn't that much there anyway.
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Re: Doombuilder prefabs?

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Apothem wrote:Anyone know of or have any Doombuilder prefabs I can use for Mapping?
Why not just take finished maps directly and compile them as a megawad.

or, just download a megawad from the archive directly. You'd be saving so much time.
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Kristus wrote:
Apothem wrote:Anyone know of or have any Doombuilder prefabs I can use for Mapping?
Why not just take finished maps directly and compile them as a megawad.

or, just download a megawad from the archive directly. You'd be saving so much time.
I think you misunderstood something here...
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My interpretation:

I think he's saying that if you are relying on other people's mapping, why not just compile their maps into a a wad wholesale and forget the creativity part of mapping totally.

If that is the case, I think there is a place for nice little consoles, pillars and other structures that people could plug into their levels just as most of us already do with textures, sprites DECORATE monsters and, to a lesser extent, scripts. However, it could also end up with the old "Oh look, that's Kristus' console prefab - again" syndrome.
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Enjay wrote:I think he's saying that if you are relying on other people's mapping, why not just compile their maps into a a wad wholesale and forget the creativity part of mapping totally.
But is the attitude nessecary?
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Authors May Absolutely NOT use this add-ons stuff to their own projects.
If you do we will do something about it. And it won't be pleasant.
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Graf Zahl wrote:
Authors May Absolutely NOT use this add-ons stuff to their own projects.
If you do we will do something about it. And it won't be pleasant.
What's that from?
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But what's that got to do with Doombuilder prefabs?
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It was a response to Enjay's interpretation of Kristus's post. ;)
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Ooer. My bad.
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Yah, I knew Kristus wasn't in favour of people using his stuff, and he has made comments in the past to the effect that people should come up with their own stuff rather than use that of others, which is why I interpreted his comment in the way I did.

I can see his point of view, but it's not mine. IIRC, he doesn't want to see elements of his work that he has taken time and effort on being rehashed into another - potentially inferior - piece of work. He also seems to be of the opinion that it is usually (maybe even always)preferable for someone to be original and produce something of their own rather than rely on the work of others. (Please correct me if I'm wrong Kristus.)

I, however, am quite happy for anything I produce to be used by others. If it helps someone get their project finished, or just allows them to have a bit of fun playing around with Doom, then that's a good thing IMO and it's no skin off my nose. I've already done my thing and enjoyed it. As long as I get a credit from anyone who releases something that includes a piece of my work, then any effort I may have put in has been acknowledged and I'm happy. Being asked is always nice. If I'm not asked but I am credited, then I'm fine with that. I think my opinion that it's OK to use my stuff is pretty well known so I guess (perhaps for that reason) some people don't bother, but I do check text files when I spot something I recognise as mine in a mod. ;)
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Enjay wrote:IIRC, he doesn't want to see elements of his work that he has taken time and effort on being rehashed into another
Hmmm... "Ah, i've put these sectors together to make a small computer... IT'S MINE!!! NO ONE ELSE CAN HAVE MY PRECIOUS SECTORS!! HISSSSSS!!!!!!"

That's almost as bad as hotwax deletes the SCRIPTS lump out of all the wads he used. :(
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Well, bear in mind, I'm currently putting words in Kristus' mouth. Don't jump on him for my interpretation of what I've seen him saying. I'm sure he'll say his piece if he wants to.
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