[FORUM] Suggestion: Losering

QBasicer · Post by **QBasicer** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:49 pm

I oppose this. It doesn't cure anything.

Necromage · Post by **Necromage** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:35 pm

QBasicer wrote:I oppose this. It doesn't cure anything.

You have your right to disagree with this for what ever reason you want, however, since you are a mod and its your job to clean up as much crap as you can, so what would suggest we do?

Post by **Bio Hazard** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:52 pm

wildweasel wrote:any replies they make to existing posts must be approved by moderators before they will be visible to the rest of the users.

Holy crap! You think I'm going to read every one of an idiot's posts?! Think again...

Bloodshedder wrote:Of course, probably the next thing I'll notice is someone suggesting a Post Hell forum.

There already is one. You just can't see it.

About the whole loser system, A usergroup wouldn't work because you could unsubscribe from it.

Nmn · Post by **Nmn** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:53 pm

aren't the current methods sufficient enough??>?

KoF? Banana!

Cataluna? bAnana!

Shitty threads? chojinlocke

SST?X Matter of time.

sample

i hope the warning list goes back to offtopic good idea!!

wildweasel · Post by **wildweasel** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:20 pm

Bio Hazard wrote:Holy crap! You think I'm going to read every one of an idiot's posts?! Think again...

Which is why we're going to need at least one extra moderator.

Nmn · Post by **Nmn** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:22 pm

CORWIN FOR MODERATOR!!!

wildweasel · Post by **wildweasel** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:29 pm

Nmn wrote:CORWIN FOR MODERATOR!!!

That's not quite what I was getting at, but I appreciate the support.

Sir_Alien · Post by **Sir_Alien** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:40 pm

Lots of people wrote:Lots of stuff about improving the "losering" idea.

Let's not take a simple and straightforward idea that would be very little work for the mods and turn it into something completely unworkable and unmanageable that no mod will want a part of...

There's no need to add any new features to the forum and there's no need for user voting, flagging posts or approval / disapproval buttons. We've managed to report posts and pm the mods with our grievances for this long, why should a "losering" feature change any of that?

This would simply serve as a step to come before banning that the mods could take to warn people that their behaviour is unacceptable, and would work just like when someone is eligible for banning: if enough people complain, people can be losered, just like banning.

To reiterate, my concept of the losering system would work like this:

If you're bad, your posting privilleges are restricted to off-topic and you are informed why.
If your behaviour improves during this "losered" time, your posting privilleges may be restored.
If your behaviour does not improve during this "losered" time, you may be banned.

Simple, easy and straightforward without adding too much work on to the moderators. Why does it need to be anything more that that?

QBasicer wrote:I oppose this. It doesn't cure anything.

I disagree. I think it would serve to weed out the people who are here to cause trouble from those who are here to learn and contribute. Once someone is losered, it's becomes evident very quickly as to whether they show any genuine signs of remorse and thus should be given another chance, or whether they aren't worth worrying about.

Also, if someone who is losered really care about being here, they will do something about it. The majority of those who don't will either leave of their own accord or make themselves a very easy candidate for banning. Wouldn't that make your job a whole lot easier?

Plus, as I have said before, this "mid-step" between memberhood and banning, I believe, will make a difference in so far as keeping the main forum relatively free of garbage and protecting people's right to have a decent thread to ask questions and share ideas.

No offense, but the current system's not working.

DoomRater · Post by **DoomRater** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:04 pm

Spoiler:
One question I'd have for the mods is if they would use this opportunity to loser (trolls in general) for their trolling comments. Personally I do not find most of their trolls that offensive. The problem is that people are taking those posts too seriously. I know, I know, you'd like to have a more professional attitude around here. I used to be just as oversensitive- the fact is no one is going to remember if you spilled the milk a few months ago.

Er, with that out of the way, I say implement it. Losering is for people who need to be reminded to keep it clean. I just hope nobody starts keeping track of those losered for whatever amount of time... I hate law watchers about as much as those who disrupt settings merely for their own enjoyment.

EDIT: names removed and rant spoilered.

Sir_Alien · Post by **Sir_Alien** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:17 pm

Let's not target specific people right now or this will degenerate into a flame war. Please, I do believe this is a worthwhile idea and should be discussed in a rational manner.

At the moment, it's a concept, and as such there's no need to start saying "ooh, loser this person please!"

DoomRater · Post by **DoomRater** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:18 pm

The point of my rant was DON'T loser him. Perhaps I should have saved it for Drama Central...

Sir_Alien · Post by **Sir_Alien** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:10 pm

DoomRater wrote:The point of my rant was DON'T loser him. Perhaps I should have saved it for Drama Central...

K, misunderstanding, sorry.

NecroMage wrote:
QBasicer wrote:I oppose this. It doesn't cure anything.
You have your right to disagree with this for what ever reason you want, however, since you are a mod and its your job to clean up as much crap as you can, so what would suggest we do?

I have to second this. I don't see how a system that allows things to get to the point of KoF or Hobbs before action is taken is effective.

The ban warnings made no difference to people. Is my suggestion so outrageous that you're not even willing to try it to see if it works?

Wills · Post by **Wills** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:53 pm

I agree with the loser system. If there were a visible symbol besides the username or something indicating that they were 'losered', it would also help prevent new people from associating with the 'losers' and picking up bad habits.

zap610 · Post by **zap610** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:03 pm

I support this system, but I guess it really doesent matter, just whatever needs to be done to clean up the crap.

leileilol · Post by **leileilol** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:32 pm

we need an un-biased super moderator.