[WinZETH] 2003-10-15 Hopefully I'm getting close.

Post by **MasterOFDeath** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:32 pm

Besides, I would love a WinZETH myself as well. No more DOS!

ellmo · Post by **ellmo** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:43 am

Tormentor667 wrote:Beyond that: Who will use WinZETH if DoomBuilder is for free?

Anyone, who think's that Doombuilder is too freakin slow, lacks the ability to drop verices wherever you want, and requires more than 500 MHz, for god-knows-what...

I'm still using ZETH, and will be using new versions of it, or WINZETH...

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:04 am

it says it requires 500mhz. it recommends what, 1ghz? that's nonsense. i don't know what the hell that's on about, i used it on a 500mhz forever and no slower than anything else was on that machine

and it could probably run on lower than 500, only thing is you need a decent vid card for 3d mode to go at an alright speed i guess

Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:18 am

ZETH never works for me. Every time I try placing ANYTHING it crashes.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:45 pm

ellmo wrote:
Tormentor667 wrote:Beyond that: Who will use WinZETH if DoomBuilder is for free?
Anyone, who think's that Doombuilder is too freakin slow

It works great on my 2.6 GHz machine...

lacks the ability to drop verices wherever you want

Umm... What? Hit 'V' to enter Vertex mode, then right-click to place a vertex. Gee, that was hard.

and requires more than 500 MHz, for god-knows-what...

That's like complaining that ZDoom requires more than a 486. Seriously, whose fault is it that your computer is 10 years old?

ellmo · Post by **ellmo** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:43 am

HotWax wrote:It works great on my 2.6 GHz machine...

I mean it's just not as handy as ZETH is (IMO of course)...

HotWax wrote:Umm... What? Hit 'V' to enter Vertex mode, then right-click to place a vertex. Gee, that was hard.

I'm pretty sure I've tried that before, cause it's the same as in ZETH. Guess I need to play a bit more with that editor. But don't expect me to throw away my beautiful, DOS-based ZETH.

EDIT: Yeah, now I know what I meant. I couldn't figure out how to connect two free vertices inot a LineDef... Can that be done easily?

sirjuddington · Post by **sirjuddington** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:54 pm

I'm pretty sure the only way to create a line in DB is via line-drawing...

ellmo · Post by **ellmo** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:39 am

I got it working. Just a little practice and I found out how to drop LineDefs starting on onther LineDefs... Having no problem with it now.

Come to think of it, I could be able to work faster with DB than with ZETH.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:48 am

Yeah, the insert-key trick needs to be documented better, but once you've figured it out you should have no further problems.

Nmn · Post by **Nmn** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:11 pm

ellmo wrote: Come to think of it, I could be able to work faster with DB than with ZETH.

rofl

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:39 pm

HotWax wrote:Yeah, the insert-key trick needs to be documented better, but once you've figured it out you should have no further problems.

That's a trick? Heh, that's just the way I worked to begin with.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:46 pm

Well, I consider it a trick because I'm used to simply right-clicking to drop vertices, but that doesn't work when you're trying to split a line because it brings up the line's properties instead. It took me awhile to figure out I could just move the mouse into position and hit insert instead.

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:20 pm

I just work in line mode most of the time. If you press insert and then click on a line, it'll split it and you can draw from there.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:35 am

HotWax wrote:move the mouse into position and hit insert instead.

you mean you can do that?!

good lord, the time i've been wasting!

well, better later than never i guess

sirjuddington · Post by **sirjuddington** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:18 am

Well I've released the next version of my SLADE editor if anyone's interested. I've also put up the source and a forum...

http://mancubus.net/~slayer/slade/