Different simpson doom.

.:Doom:. · Post by **.:Doom:.** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:40 pm

hi my lil bro found a different simpson doom then the one i already have and its way better you guys should try it. Because i need someone to find out how to set up deathmatches and co-op games for me. thx

http://www.angelfire.com/scary/sdoom

BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:36 pm

i've known about that Simpsons doom for quite a while now.
it's better, but not by much.

Bashe · Post by **Bashe** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:44 pm

Yeah, I noticed that there was two Simpsons Dooms. One has like so much blood it's unreal and there's the one that someone made for Zdoom which I have which is better.

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:53 pm

This is just a shareware version? Where do I get the full version for this one?

leileilol · Post by **leileilol** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:20 am

Nah, that's a remark of laziness. He probably never made the full version, and anyways if he was to have you pay for it, then it's illegal making profit off another production's franchise.

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:20 pm

That's what I thought. But then I just assumed that maybe he was actually hardcore enough to license the engine for making a crappy-looking mod..... Well I DLed the "ShareWare" version and it was like over 13MB or so, which is craziness.

Bashe · Post by **Bashe** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:12 pm

Holy crap. I did not notice that he wants you to buy it! What a dick. Who would "buy" a wad?

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:15 pm

The same kind'a people who wanted us to buy Hac-X, perhaps?

Post by **Xaser** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:28 pm

Wow. This thing is just TNT-Evilution with different graphics, sounds, and a retardd EXE. Plus, it's free. OMG WAREZ ALERT.

Anyway, this wad is kind of... sucks.

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:45 pm

Xaser wrote:Wow. This thing is just TNT-Evilution with different graphics, sounds, and a retardd EXE. Plus, it's free. OMG WAREZ ALERT.

Anyway, this wad is kind of... sucks.

Yeah I haven't really played Evilution that much and I can still tell those are pretty much just the same thing with different graphics.... So what the hell is taking 13MB?

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:52 pm

geedougg wrote:The same kind'a people who wanted us to buy Hac-X, perhaps?

That's completely different.
HacX was a conversion built from scratch using an original idea. They went through the proper process and they own their creative work. Asking for money for that is perfectly legitimate.

A conversion from ripped graphics and ideas is not the intellectual property of the distributor. Unless the creators have licensed this, the work is not legal to sell or even distribute. Asking for money for this is just plain lame.

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:04 am

Risen wrote:HacX was a conversion built from scratch using an original idea. They went through the proper process and they own their creative work. Asking for money for that is perfectly legitimate.

Well Hac-X still used the DooM engine. Shouldn't the makers of Hac-X have licensed the engine first in order to sell a game that used the DooM engine?

Risen wrote:A conversion from ripped graphics and ideas is not the intellectual property of the distributor. Unless the creators have licensed this, the work is not legal to sell or even distribute. Asking for money for this is just plain lame.

I don't know, as far as I can see (from the screenshots anyway), the Simpsons graphics aren't ripped from anywhere; they look as though they were drawn by the people who made this Simpsons Doom WAD.... But if it's directly taken without permission or licensing, then it wouldn't only be lame, it would also be illegal too. I'm not sure if that's what they've done here though....

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:37 am

geedougg wrote:Well Hac-X still used the DooM engine. Shouldn't the makers of Hac-X have licensed the engine first in order to sell a game that used the DooM engine?

It was my understanding that they did.

geedougg wrote:...as far as I can see (from the screenshots anyway), the Simpsons graphics aren't ripped from anywhere...

It doesn't matter. They're still ripping intellectual property.

geedougg wrote:But if it's directly taken without permission or licensing, then it wouldn't only be lame, it would also be illegal too.

My point exactly.

GeeDougg · Post by **GeeDougg** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:38 pm

Risen wrote:
geedougg wrote:Well Hac-X still used the DooM engine. Shouldn't the makers of Hac-X have licensed the engine first in order to sell a game that used the DooM engine?
It was my understanding that they did.

Umm, you know licensing an engine ain't cheap. Somehow I'm not too sure the people who made Hac-X could've actually afforded to do so....

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:36 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HacX wrote:The author of HacX paid id Software $5000 for the rights to market Hacx.