Need opinions on new computer

If it's not ZDoom, it goes here.
User avatar
Dancso
Posts: 1906
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:39 am
Location: at home.. Status: lazy like hell

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by Dancso »

If you could please give a concrete example on what exactly is handled differently?
TRIM was on without having to adjust anything, I've got 24GB of ram so I've never been subjected to pagefiling in case that's a lot worse on Win7 for wear and tear... I don't know what else might be of concern.
User avatar
Amuscaria
Posts: 6634
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:59 pm
Location: Growing from mycelium near you.

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by Amuscaria »

So the only GTX 1080 available is a overclocked one at $750.00. I guess I could wait for the normal ones to restock. I do have a question though, is a PCI Express 3.0 x16 the same as a PCI Express 3.0? I don't wanna get a card that doesn't fit on my mobo.
User avatar
Dancso
Posts: 1906
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:39 am
Location: at home.. Status: lazy like hell

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by Dancso »

The x-number refers to the pcie bandwidth it can utilize. The i7 6700k can support 3.0: 1x16 or 2x8 or 4x2+1x8
http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Int ... o-4_20-GHz
It is under "Expansion options". The 1080 may be 3.0 x16 capable but it will run just fine on x8 aswell, meaning you can slot another pcie card into your motherboard without crippling your graphics card's performance.
Proof: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/60 ... ottleneck/ (there's a guy who tested both 8x and 16x and posted screenshots)
Or look here for a more in-depth examination: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/artic ... mance-518/
The way it works, if you're using more "lanes", then the bandwidth is reduced, but the pcie lanes can transfer so much data that I've not heard of a graphics card fully saturating 3.0 x16.

The is pretty standard for intel desktop processors, can't speak for xeons but the 1x16 is on pretty much all (relatively recent) core-i processors, the exception being the expensive extreme edition ones which give more.

Make sure to do a lot of research on your choice of graphics card to make an informed decision - check benchmarks! I personally find the 1080 outrageously overpriced.. i dread to think what the 1080ti might cost if it comes out, let alone the next series in a couple of years.. But then again, I'm holding out for the real robust 4k@60 experience, I don't think the 1080 is and nor will the 1080ti be quite there. :\
User avatar
DaMan
Posts: 727
Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:14 am

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by DaMan »

You'll only get a year of "support" with Win7. You might need one of them antique DVD drives since you can't install Win7 by USB on Skylake.
User avatar
Amuscaria
Posts: 6634
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:59 pm
Location: Growing from mycelium near you.

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by Amuscaria »

Installing both Win7 and Win10 on the same SSD shouldn't be an issue, right? Need to ensure all my art programs work (some won't work on Win10).
User avatar
Hellser
Global Moderator
Posts: 2787
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:43 pm
Preferred Pronouns: He/Him
Operating System Version (Optional): Manjaro Linux
Graphics Processor: ATI/AMD with Vulkan/Metal Support
Location: Citadel Station

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by Hellser »

Shouldn't be an issue.
User avatar
Accensus
Banned User
Posts: 2383
Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:59 am

Re: Need opinions on new computer

Post by Accensus »

Amuscaria wrote:Installing both Win7 and Win10 on the same SSD shouldn't be an issue, right? Need to ensure all my art programs work (some won't work on Win10).
Just make sure they're on 2 different partitions. I'd assume it's obvious, but I better warn you just in case. Other than that, there shouldn't be any issues.
Post Reply

Return to “Off-Topic”