Replacing lines for "Other" gender

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Replacing lines for "Other" gender

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"Itself" is kind of far fetched. How about "themselves"? Unless you patched up some cybernetic sprites and are roleplaying as a robot.

Otherwise, a gender named among the lines of "unknown" can work aswell.
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Re: Replacing lines for "Other" gender

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Problem is, the current way the obituaries are written simply repurposes the "him/her/it" identifier:

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"%o killed %hself."
And there are years' worth of mods that use that scheme.

I seem to recall that the "Other" gender used to be labeled "Cyborg" instead; this could be considered a holdover from that.
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Ah, crap.

Well, then another gender could be the better option, but I don't actually see the value in it. I think replacing the obituaries for Other seems a much better solution, but I have to factor in what you said...

"Themselves" versus "itself". That's a dramatic change, actually.
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Should singular they results in "themself"? :p
wildweasel wrote:I seem to recall that the "Other" gender used to be labeled "Cyborg" instead; this could be considered a holdover from that.
Yeah, that was something copied from Quake II, just like the original zvox.wad.
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Even though it's not proper grammar, definetly.
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Itself and themself are both pronouns.. However, the definition is different. But I'm fine with "itself" over "themself".
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Really? I've never heard "themself".
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Oxford's dictionary has it. Webster however does not.
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I suppose it's a logical word, but then I wonder why nobody says it.
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Webster drops words if they're never used in daily life, where as Oxford would keep it.
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Themself or hirself. Either has my vote.

"It" is insulting and makes me think of Buffalo Bill.
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Hellser wrote:Webster drops words if they're never used in daily life, where as Oxford would keep it.
"Themself" is actually the opposite, i.e. it's a word that has only recently begun to be used.
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NiGHTMARE wrote:
Hellser wrote:Webster drops words if they're never used in daily life, where as Oxford would keep it.
"Themself" is actually the opposite, i.e. it's a word that has only recently begun to be used.
I blame tumblr and the Pluto-kins then. :P
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I have to agree that "it/itself" etc. is insulting
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Re: Replacing lines for "Other" gender

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As I said before, I don't mind it. Don't see how it is insulting, personally.
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