[Release] JENESIS - Done and on /idgames.

[Abba Zabba]

What? Just put the updated material into the wad itself. Unless there's something else in there but level names and updated maps?

[Zhs2]

What he means is, once you do that, then you have to bother with version numbers, new file names, checksum comparisons in extreme situations, yadda yadda. Granted, missing player starts is not a fatal error in Zansonumb, but for any bugfix in general it might just be easier to say "HEY, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS EXTRA FILE LOADED, LET ME BITCH AT YOU" than to confuse the end user with "Do I have the latest? Do I need to download it ALL again?" I also assume that updating on /idgames is a pain in the butt in general and hosting fixes before updating the main product tends to be less annoying overall.

[Abba Zabba]

File names? Are we giving it a new mini title each time? Like "Jenesis- the power of shotguns" or something? I don't understand. And for versions, all you have to do it type it into the file name, it's pretty easy. Downloading it all again, if it's still just one collected file, is still better than having multiple files for one mod. Sacrifice a little short term (time it takes to download the mod again) for long term (file space).

[cortlong50]

i dont know what these fellas are arguing about, but im going to give this a spin because i am all about those "its a nostalgia map with bad ass map design and old school visuals" wads right now.
ill let you know whats up after i run through momento 2 again.

[Jimmy]

Glosh damb it.

I suppose I'll have to hurry up and do something about a v1.1 release.

[TerminusEst13]

File names? Are we giving it a new mini title each time? Like "Jenesis- the power of shotguns" or something? I don't understand.

Me neither, since I'm not sure what you're goin' on about, mate.
If two people with jenesis.wad, one person having the old unpatched jenesis.wad and one with the fixed jenesis.wad try to connect to each other, there is going to be a Level authentication failure, and the two people will not be able to play together. So just cramming the fixes into a single wad is not going to fix everything. And the majority of non BE-hosted servers are not going to have a working download link, which means it will automatically do a google search, which has a high chance of getting the wrong version.
The thing is to change the file name. jenesisv2.wad, or jenesis-v1.1.1.wad, or jenesis-fixed.wad, or jenesis-thepowerofshotguns.wad, or anything but jenesis.wad.

[Abba Zabba]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Just put the version in the filename. I thought he meant something entirely different when he said change the title. And what's the most popular MP port? Zandro?

[cortlong50]

I got to play this finally.
It is so frackin fun. It feels way more "the way id did it" than twidi2.
Super fun super killer layout. Lovin it.

[Jimmy]

I'm glad you like it. Though I can categorically say that the mapset not one bit "the way id did". It's more "the way Jimmy did and will continue to do because he's helplessly absorbed into his tendency to make boxy, orthogonal stuff and has an allergy to angled walls".

[cortlong50]

Well whatever you're doing it's working. And it makes me want to continue to arbitrarily murder pixelly demons.
And that's really the definition of a prophet.

[Sinael]

Lots of nice little details in this wad. Like broken doors with gaping holes that show up some wiring inside, cracks in the slabs of concrete in ruined houses, stuff like that - a simple attention to details without over-detailed linedef fest some mappers consider "good mapping".
THIS is a good mapping. More complex than "the way ID done", but hey - 20 years has passed since then .
Also good combat balance and monster grouping.

[Jimmy]

Many thanks!

[Abba Zabba]

Hey Jimmy, just wanted to inform you on this little HOMlette I found in Map 16: