[WIP] Project MSX - Beta 2 (v0.2a) July 22, 2013 Update!

[chronoteeth]

in the interest of having something on topic

i redid the sounds i did for the mod months ago. beefier and snappier.

[VICE]

I think the extra baddies addon gives extra pistol ammo in drops, not entirely sure though.

One particular enemy in the add-on drops them regularly, and pistol ammo boxes spawn randomly in the most recent version, so one can expect to see much more pistol ammo when playing with the add-on.

[User160971235]

in the interest of having something on topic

i redid the sounds i did for the mod months ago. beefier and snappier.

Damn, those are really sweet sounds. My only complaint being that the AR firing sound is a bit quiet compared to the firing sounds of every other weapon (needs to be amplified, a little extra gain wouldn't hurt either). However, I do like that the firing sound kind of walks the line of being an AR firing sound and SMG firing sound. Everything else sounds perfect. Is sound engineering a hobby of yours or something?

[chronoteeth]

you can go for the original AR sound then, that one was more snappy. i like this ar sound because it has proper stereo. a lot of it is just splicing, trimming, and cutting/merging/editing existing sounds with other sounds till i see fit

[LostSkull]

This is so sexy!

[Viscra Maelstrom]

i found the pistol to be pretty useful against low-tier enemies. it's less effective against mid-tier ones, due to how HP-tanky they are, but if the map-set would only give you a pistol to rely on for a bit, then you always have the completely free fist-charges and EMP grenades to pit at them.

[LostSkull]

Yeah, for once the pistol is useful compaired to any other shooter out there.

[Big C]

Yes. It's good either as a "finisher" gun, or a jack-of-all-trades weapon that excels at nothing but is reliable in all situations.

Also, I get the feeling the assault rifle is supposed to fill the role of the vanilla DooM shotgun in this mod as a workhorse weapon, given the sheer amount of spare ammo dropped for it.

[submerge]

Yes. It's good either as a "finisher" gun, or a jack-of-all-trades weapon that excels at nothing but is reliable in all situations.

Also, I get the feeling the assault rifle is supposed to fill the role of the vanilla DooM shotgun in this mod as a workhorse weapon, given the sheer amount of spare ammo dropped for it.

I agree, but more than anything the enemies just need to be tweaked to drop more pistol ammo, and the autoshotty needs a buff. AFAIK both those things are happening.

[EightLimbs]

Could you please add headshots to this mod?

It just feels a bit weird when you have weapons like the pistol and the rifle for accuracy and nothing happens when you ping demons in the face.

Seriously seriously awesome mod though. Absolutely love it!

[LostSkull]

Can someone recommend me some good WADs to play this with?
I'm currently playing it with BTSX and I love it!

[Endless123]

Can someone recommend me some good WADs to play this with?
I'm currently playing it with BTSX and I love it!

Personally i like Dark 7 and Hadephobia with this mod. DoomOne is also fun to play with this mod. What is awesome about Project MSX is you can combined this mod with almost all WADs. It's even compatible with FreeDoom So take your pick and you are sure to have fun

[LostSkull]

Thanks I actually tried this with the scary Unloved WAD and it worked very well combined, it became almost like F.E.A.R.

[Ionosphere-Negate]

Hey yo, I made a few tweaks to MSX, including: ammo pickup amounts and messages, rifle and auto-shotgun damage,
and I even fixed the sprite for the rifle ammo box:
I also changed the sgauss from "Sniper Gauss Cannon" to just "Gauss Rifle."

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Here's a full changelog:

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Ammo messages: (I only changed these 'cus I'm REALLY technical)
Pistol pack: "Pack of .50AE HEAP cartridges"
(HEAP means High Explosive Armor Piercing)

Arifle box: "Box of 5.56x45mm M855A2 cartridges"
Arifle pack: "Pack of 5.56x45mm M855A2 cartridges"
(M855A2 is a fictional improvement of the M855A1, which is in fact a cartridge you don't want to fuck with.)

Autoshot pack: "Pack of 12GA '00'Buck shells"
Autoshot box: "Box of 12GA '00'Buck shells"

NailShot box: "Box of 4GA SCMITR3 shells for NailShotgun"

Cannon pack: "Pack of 20mm HEDP cartridges"
Cannon box: "Box of 20mm HEDP cartridges"
(HEDP means High Explosive Dual Purpose - it is an anti-tank shaped-charge with a fragmenting shell for anti-personnel purposes. It is the default warhead for 40mm nade cartridges)

Single cell: "Power Cell for Pulse Rifle"
Box of cells: "Box of Power Cells for Pulse Rifle"

Sgauss pack: "Clip of 18mm XEFM slugs for Gauss Rifle"
(XEFM means eXtreme Energy FerroMagnetic)


Ammo statistics:
(Weapons that are NOT used by enemies, with the exception of the NailShotgun, are given full magazines for pickup if not already)

Backpack now gives one full magazine for all weapons, plus two extra shells for the NailShotgun.

Pistol ammo pack now gives 15 instead of 6
Pistol pickup now gives 9 ammo instead of 6

Rifle ammo pack and arifle pickup now give 20 instead of 18
Rifle ammo box ammo now gives 60 instead of 54

12GA pack and autoshot pickup now give 8 instead of 6
12GA box now gives 24 instead of 16

4GA box now gives 10 instead of 12

Cannon box now gives 20 instead of 15
Cannon pickup now gives 30 instead of 15

Crifle pickup now gives 80 instead of 40
Single cell now gives 40 instead of 20
Box of cells now gives 120 instead of 80
(I decided on this because the weapon has ports for two cells, given that cells come in singles, they each give half a clip, and the box has three. Because of how this weapon works, it uses the equivalent of en-bloc clips with an internal magazine)

Weapon damage:
Arifle now does 32 hip-fire damage, instead of 30
Arifle now does 35 "zoomed" damage, instead of a lousy 29 which is LESS than the original hip-fire

Autoshot now does 13 damage per pellet, instead of 11 (with 9 pellets, that's 117 instead of 99 dam)
(side note: 9 pellets is the correct number of '00' Buckshot that a 12 gauge shell can hold)

Everything else remains unchanged

Unfortunately, I actually had to make a few tweaks to the changelog just now, so the one that comes in the PK3 file won't be exactly right. Dropbox doesn't do that incremental update stuff, but I'm not too worried about it.

Although the creator hasn't given the mod a major number yet, it might as well have one. I can safely say this is a fully-working package deserving a nice, big 1.0 on it. And no, while I prefer my modifications (especially the damage mods to the rifle), I'm talking about the current official "0.2a" version.

BTW, this mod is fun as Hell (lol) on top of Unholy Realms, which is what I'm playing now.

PS: The damage for some of the weapons has a static base damage, and then has a damage roll on top of that.
Hope u liek!

[Valherran]

Interesting, will have a romp through this later today. Though I can tell that the increased ammo pickups may be a bit much.

EDIT: Um, ok, it doesn't work at all. All I see is standard Doom 2 content.