Question: Increasing Doom Carrying Capacity?

[Herculine]

I'm trying to increase DoomGuy's ammo carrying capacity. As Enjay has kindly told me, this must be done by modifying each ammo type in the DECORATE lump.

But I've tried several different ways today and keep getting either nothing or results like total inability to pick up any ammo at all.

Could someone please post an example of what the code block should look like for one of the ammo types, like the clip, so that it will increase carry capacity beyond 400?

Many thanks.

[NeuralStunner]

Here's an example:

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Actor ClipPlus : Ammo Replaces Clip
{
	Game Doom
	SpawnID 11
	Inventory.PickupMessage "$GOTCLIP"
	Inventory.Amount 10
	Inventory.MaxAmount 400 // Standard maximum.
	Ammo.BackpackAmount 10
	Ammo.BackpackMaxAmount 800 // Extended maximum.
	Inventory.Icon "CLIPA0"
	States
	{
	Spawn:
		CLIP A -1
		Stop
	}
}

ACTOR ClipBoxPlus : ClipPlus Replaces ClipBox
{
	Game Doom
	SpawnID 139
	Inventory.PickupMessage "$GOTCLIPBOX"
	Inventory.Amount 50
	States
	{
	Spawn:
		AMMO A -1
		Stop
	}
}

You can't inherit from Clip, because you'd just be making a new pickup for the same ammo type. The only way (Decorate-wise) is to redefine it with a new name, and change any references (In Player classes and Weapons) from the old one to the new one.

If you don't plan to change weapons or the player, this is one thing DeHackEd is still useful for.

[Herculine]

Thanks for the examples. I'll see how that works out, and perhaps I'll try the DEHACKED method as well.

[NeuralStunner]

Oops, I forgot to raise the Backpack amount in the example. Fixed that.

[Herculine]

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Actor ClipPlus : Ammo Replaces Clip
{
Game Doom
SpawnID 11
Inventory.PickupMessage "$GOTCLIP"
Inventory.Amount 10
Inventory.MaxAmount 300
Ammo.BackpackAmount 10
Ammo.BackpackMaxAmount 600
Inventory.Icon "CLIPA0"
States
{
Spawn:
CLIP A -1
Stop
}
}

ACTOR ClipBoxPlus : ClipPlus Replaces ClipBox
{
Game Doom
SpawnID 139
Inventory.PickupMessage "$GOTCLIPBOX"
Inventory.Amount 50
States
{
Spawn:
AMMO A -1
Stop
}
}

I did it just like this, but there is no change in the inventory number and when I pick up a box nothing gets added to the number as if it wasn't there.

[NeuralStunner]

I did it just like this, but there is no change in the inventory number and when I pick up a box nothing gets added to the number as if it wasn't there.

I think that unless you have a weapon that uses the ammo type, it won't show. Also I forgot that the default status bar is pretty much hard-coded to the original ammo types. You can make a new Chaingun that uses ClipPlus, and it should appear in the alternate HUD though.

Looks like DeHackEd may be the simplest way to go for this, actually.

[Herculine]

I've got it working with DeHacked now. The only small glitch is that you start the game with those max limits rather than getting the increase when you pick up your first backpack of the game.

I suppose I need to take what I can get, though.

[Enjay]

It's been a long time since I did things with DeHacked but you should be able to set things up so that the game still doubles your ammo capacity when you pick up a back pack. Unfortunately, I don't remeber the details.

[NeuralStunner]

It's been a long time since I did things with DeHacked but you should be able to set things up so that the game still doubles your ammo capacity when you pick up a back pack. Unfortunately, I don't remeber the details.

I thought this was handled in the Ammo or Weapon category, however looking around WhackEd2 I can't find anything.

[Enjay]

OK, I reinstalled dehacked to check. On the F4 Misc screen the bottom area deals with weapons and ammo. Use PgDn/PgUp to select a weapon that uses the ammo type that you want to change. Go to the field called "Init. max ammo" and change it to the number you want. Note, this is the initial maximum ammo - ie the maximum ammo that you can have without a backpack. When you pick up a backpack, the number that you entered will be doubled.

As an example, this dehacked patch doubles the number of bullets that you can carry from 200/400 to 400/800

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Patch File for DeHackEd v3.0

# Note: Use the pound sign ('#') to start comment lines.

Doom version = 19
Patch format = 6


Ammo 0 (Bullets)
Max ammo = 400

and here is the screen responsible:



[ Yay DOSBox BTW! ]

[SFJake]

Just use WhackEd. Geeze, why are people even usign Dehacked anymore. Especially the ZDoom folks, WhackEd ammo editing always worked perfectly and backpacks double the new amount. I never had the slightest issues with it.

[Enjay]

Personally I hardly ever use either now. I used to use dehacked a lot and knew it inside out. By the time Whacked had matured, Zdoom had advanced to the point that dehacked patches were basically pointless for anything I was doing. So, on the rare occasions when I need to make a dehacked patch I have the choice whether to use the old DOS program which I know is limited but I know inside out or the more modern program that I am less familiar with and which I will never use enough to become familiar enough with to be able to use as quickly as the old program.

But, yeah, I use both and to specifically mention the appropriate bit of Whacked:



Using that to change the 200 to 400 makes a patch which is essentially the same as the one made by dehacked.