Voodoo dolls in boxes

[Pinky's ass]

In some levels, even for Vanilla, you could see voodoo dolls closed in sectors that can be reached only using noclip. What are they doing there?

[Graf Zahl]

Getting crushed to death, maybe?

[Pinky's ass]

Maybe some of them. But other ones were motionless.

[esselfortium]

Voodoo dolls, without boom conveyor belts, can be used for a number of things still:

- Annoying instant-death teleports, like the teleport maze at the beginning of TNT Evilution map30.

- Giving the player weapons or powerups, by putting the voodoo doll within the range to pick up the item(s), but on a lift, so that it can't touch them until something in the map lowers that lift.

- Crushing the voodoo to death, either after a certain length of time (by putting them under a very high ceiling) or if the player does something that should kill them.

- Using controlled barrel explosions to push them over trigger lines, with the unfortunate side effect of doing a few points of damage as well.

And probably some other things I haven't thought of.

[Unknown_Assassin]

Anytihng relating to your demise, if you fall into a trap.

[Project Shadowcat]

- Annoying instant-death teleports, like the teleport maze at the beginning of TNT Evilution map30.

Hey, I thought that was a very clever puzzle.

[Unknown_Assassin]

- Annoying instant-death teleports, like the teleport maze at the beginning of TNT Evilution map30.

Hey, I thought that was a very clever puzzle.

I thought it was a clever trick, not a clever puzzle. It got annoying quickly.

[Project Shadowcat]

Someone didn't pay attention to the rows of torches before the zone. That was not a trial and error puzzle.

[Macil]

I just used the automap - it was really obvious.

Oh... it seems like that was a glitch with zdoom.

[sniperchance]

Of course, with regards to ZDoom, you can just use ACS instead of voodoo dolls.

The cheater solution to TNT MAP30 only works on the custom automap.

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[Unknown_Assassin]

I knew about the automap after I started going through the teleporter (red skull door) where the soulsphere and the megaarmor are. I saved the items, but then I didn't know that door was going to be locked after it closed. I wanted to try to find a way back and then I saw a texture misalignment, so I started "sniffing" for the secret, and I got nothing. So, I used the automap, and figured out that near the beginning there were blue lines and white lines. I only use the automap to know much monsters and secrets are left or if I'm lost.

Someone didn't pay attention to the rows of torches before the zone. That was not a trial and error puzzle.

Hmm... I didn't know about that method.

[esselfortium]

Of course, with regards to ZDoom, you can just use ACS instead of voodoo dolls.

Of course, but if you're mapping for Boom-compatible ports you can create complex scripted setups just using voodoo dolls and conveyor belts. Single events, loops, if/then sequences, boolean variables, etc. can all be done pretty easily

[Project Shadowcat]

Good gods, was I the only guy who got that puzzle right on the first (few) try (tries)?

[Unknown_Assassin]

Good gods, was I the only guy who got that puzzle right on the first (few) try (tries)?

Before I tried to play TNT: Evilution without cheating, I used the fly cheat to beat that puzzle. I did beat it...after all, I got to the other side, right?

[Project Shadowcat]

..... *stabs*