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chaoscentral · Post by **chaoscentral** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:34 am

J-Dub wrote:The only thing I can think to say is that I don't care and I will do things the way I want to do them. I couldn't care less whether or not anybody has a hard on for XWE or SlumpEd because this program is the way I want it to be which is what matters to me and thats the bottom line.

you may want it that way, but keep in mind, not everybody thinks like you. When you release software, the people using it expect you to be open to comments and feature requests. You seem to be very stubborn when it comes to changing a piece of software. If your attitude stays this way, I doubt anyone will be using this over SlumpEd or XWE for that matter.

Post by **Nash** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:39 am

If you're not going to listen to peoples' comments and retain that "I make this for myself" attitude, then why even bother releasing it?

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:16 pm

People don't realize how hard it is to generate a reject table. It can be considered a sense of accomplishment when you actually managed to make something, that is complexed, work.

HotWax · Post by **HotWax** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:20 pm

Erm, unless I misunderstood, this program doesn't generate a reject table, it just edits an existing one and has a nice visual interface that lets you see what the current reject table has in it.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:34 pm

Then I probably misunderstood.

J-Dub · Post by **J-Dub** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:30 pm

Standard attitude of programmers who create software nobody likes...

If you don't like it then please STFU and find something better to do. If you don't like it so much then don't use it and don't complain, it is as simple as that. If all you're going to do is bash it don't expect any sort of halfway legitimate response.

chaoscentral wrote:
J-Dub wrote:The only thing I can think to say is that I don't care and I will do things the way I want to do them. I couldn't care less whether or not anybody has a hard on for XWE or SlumpEd because this program is the way I want it to be which is what matters to me and thats the bottom line.
you may want it that way, but keep in mind, not everybody thinks like you. When you release software, the people using it expect you to be open to comments and feature requests. You seem to be very stubborn when it comes to changing a piece of software. If your attitude stays this way, I doubt anyone will be using this over SlumpEd or XWE for that matter.

Just because you say that I'm not open to comments and feature requests doesn't make it true. If I wasn't open to comments then why would I have responded to every one of your "SLumpEd is better" comments? Just because somebody doesn't like a couple things about this doesn't mean I'm gonna change the entire flow of the program to satisfy them especially when it is the way I want it to be. Also keep in mind this is free, take it or leave it. If I was getting paid to make a SlumpEd clone then I would, but I'm not so I'm making what I want to make.

If you're not going to listen to peoples' comments and retain that "I make this for myself" attitude, then why even bother releasing it?

(see above)
And if all you're going to do is complain, why bother?

Post by **Nash** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:56 pm

I have nothing to complain about - I'm already happy with the other tools I'm using.

Post by **Bio Hazard** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:10 am

Geez you guys! What the hell? He can write his program however he wants! If you don't like it, use another one!

Just because he releases his program made by himself on his own time in hope other people find it useful doesn't make him obligated to fufill your every whim!

What's wrong with you people? If you want a feature so bad, write your own utility or pay him to do it for you.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:15 am

If he releases his program he should be prepared for some sort of criticism. But just completely ignoring any feedback is not a smart reaction IMO.

Post by **Bio Hazard** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:37 am

He's not ignoring suggestions, he's flat-out refusing them. You refuse ZDoom suggestions all the time, what makes this any different?

solarsnowfall · Post by **solarsnowfall** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:45 am

It's not really all that different, accept, Graf usually supplies more of a reason beyond (as far as editing features are concerned) "I don't wanna".

Hobbs · Post by **Hobbs** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:01 am

Oh teh dramas

Doomguy0505 · Post by **Doomguy0505** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:23 am

The programming language isn't a real factor in whether a program is crappy or not, but whether the programmer is crappy. I could write a program in VB and replicate it in C++ and it would not make the program so much better to use.

Post by **Bio Hazard** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:43 am

Yes but if you wrote it in C++ it would probably still work next year.

Doomguy0505 · Post by **Doomguy0505** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:07 am

Exactly how?