[Project] "Knee-Deep in ZDoom"

[PhAyzoN]

Q1 is a great game, unlike the borefest that is Q2.

Finally, someone agrees. Now, did you like Quake4?

[Belial]

Haven't played it.

[Phobus]

Whilst many people would complain about Quake 4's linearity, I know I'm not the olny person who enjoyed playing it through. However, it has little to no replay value.

[chaoscentral]

I kind of liked it, but due to my PC running the game blowfully, I played it on the Xbox 360, the frame rate was really jumpy, as it was a rushed port just to be in time for launch. All and all, I liked it, just getting the achievements was enough for me(PC people dont get em, but still, felt nice getting points for going through a level with just the blaster)

[Graf Zahl]

Q2 is a great game, unlike the borefest that is Q1.

(Works just as well, don't you think? )

Yeah, if you like denying facts like much faster and more challenging gameplay, less generic map design and a more interesting setting .

Strange. I'd list the exact same reasons why I like Quake 2 better.

I found Q1 visually unappealing, dull and badly balanced. There's nothing to deny. The facts in my book clearly state that Q2 is superior in every conceivable way. Even the disappointing final boss beats Q1's Shub Niggurath which is one of the lamest things I have ever seen.

[Phobus]

@chaoscentral: At one point when playing on a difficulty above the easiest, I found myself having to use the blaster because for some reason I couldn't handle any of the others (despite having played the game through 2 and a half times beforehand). It's a little weird how any and all of the guns seem to work out exactly the same way in the end...

[SMG M7]

Whilst many people would complain about Quake 4's linearity, I know I'm not the olny person who enjoyed playing it through. However, it has little to no replay value.

So I'm not the only one. I rather liked that game. Not as much as 2, but it had a pretty decent storyline and the gameplay was fun. Much like the Half-Life series.

[Nmn]

Q1's Shub Niggurath which is one of the lamest things I have ever seen.

Worse. If ID wanted to have references in the 'Tulzscha' or Outer gods believes (Chtulhu and that stuff) they should've known the way Shub was represented in Q1 was really a matter form o her spawn, aka "Dark Youn". The REAL Shub Niggurath looks really like this:


Have a read here:
http://members.shaw.ca/csstrowbridge/Tu ... mation.htm

I find absolutely idiotic how references are fucked up in some games they are used, such as US Marines in Quake 4 in 2200 ++. Stuff either makes sense or is bullshit.

Now rant away

[Belial]

I'll skip the rants and just pimp some of my crap.

This is the type of action I'm looking for in FPS games. Q1 on Nightmare, as well as a few other games (Serious Sam for example), delivers the goods, Q2 doesn't.

[Nmn]

Serious Sam for example

That's true.

[Alterworldruler]

Serious sam for example

Yeah i like that action maybe sometimes it gives me difficulties but fightning 50 enemies at once is fun

[PhAyzoN]

Despite how much I despise both of these games (for similar reasons, mainly lack of action), ill have to say Q2 > HL.

[Amuscaria]

I just got Quake 2 recently, and I must say i was really disappointed. REALLY boring gameplay. The weapons were...lame at best, with almost no animations to it.

[Graf Zahl]

Don't forget when it was made. It was one of the first games that had good support for the first generation of hardware accelerated 3D rendering but it had to run with software rendering as well. You can't expect the same kind of technological perfection that you are used to in more modern games - even Half Life. Back when it was new its graphics blew most people away.

[PhAyzoN]

Don't forget when it was made.

The awesome game that is Quake1 was made before it (der...), dont give me this technical limit crap. Technical limit shouldnt limit weapon/enemy/level coolness...