Bug? A_Explode causes infighting

Post by **Xaser** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:28 pm

Oh, man. Now I REALLY want it!!! I thought it was just a Dehacked patch. Now that I see it's like this, I MUST HAVE IT!!!!111oneone

Heh. Sorry about that.

Anyway, could you e-mail it to me, or is the filesize too much?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:15 am

As old as this may be - it is

1) not a bug

and

2) has been addressed by adding the DONTHURTSPECIES flag to DECORATE.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:57 am

Oh god this thread is hilarious!

Still, I think hotwax's point was that the chaingun thing won't even get a concideration for an option (for some reason or another), yet this has a work around.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:05 am

It is simple to make a non-accurate chaingun in DECORATE so it's essentially the same.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:07 am

True, but if it's a wad someone's made which already had decorate stuff you'd have to modify it and send it to anyone you wnated to play with... And so forth.

Oh well..

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:11 am

So it's the same for both issues. Besides, who except for HotWax would want to play with an inaccurate chaingun?

Chaingun sniping is what makes it a good weapon.

Anakin S. · Post by **Anakin S.** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:36 am

Can this flag also allow monsters be immune to hitscans from the same species? It's too easy for them to get mad and kill each other, leaving the player with little to do but dodge.

Making the inaccurate chaingun is as simple as giving the Fire state a single frame with A_ReFire and defining the Hold state to have the actual shooting.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:07 am

No, that would have to be a different flag to have more control. Strife's Inquisitor, for example, is immune to other Inquisitors' splash damage but not to their hitscan damage.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:48 am

Graf Zahl wrote:So it's the same for both issues. Besides, who except for HotWax would want to play with an inaccurate chaingun? Chaingun sniping is what makes it a good weapon.

True. I think it's cheating but... i'm used to using it now so i'll shut up

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:52 am

Why is it cheating to use the capabilities of a weapon to their fullest extent?

Post by **TheDarkArchon** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:42 pm

Cutmanmike wrote:True, but if it's a wad someone's made which already had decorate stuff you'd have to modify it and send it to anyone you wnated to play with... And so forth.

DECORATE lumps stack, unlike DEHACKED lumps.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:18 pm

Graf Zahl wrote:Why is it cheating to use the capabilities of a weapon to their fullest extent?

Chainguns don't do that?

Phobus · Post by **Phobus** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:19 pm

And Doom isn't real. I don't see your point here. If it's there, we may as well abuse it. Everybody else in every other game has done something they probably shouldn't. In newer games it's worse than using a gun to shoot accurately long range. Hell, some of this things warranted hot-mods before now.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:20 pm

Let's end this debate. I didn't move this thread to 'closed bugs' just to resurrect this...