Weasel Presents: Terrorists!

[wildweasel]

Sorry for bumping, but what good does the Koin do?

It's effectively a Megasphere replacement; it maxes your health to 200 and gives you full composite armor.

[-Ghost-]

Sorry for the bump, but is that pack of extra/different weapons for this still in the works? You've been working on that DoomNukem mod, though I've wondered, would any of those weapons work well in this mod? Congrats on the good Doomworld /newstuff review, by the way.

Also if anyone's looking for a good mapset for this: Not Over works pretty well, decent monster amounts and semi-realistic environments (http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17185). Hasn't been too hard to play through with this mod, or super easy either.

[wildweasel]

Sorry for the bump, but is that pack of extra/different weapons for this still in the works?

Kind of, yes.

You've been working on that DoomNukem mod, though I've wondered, would any of those weapons work well in this mod?

No, because they're centered and not angled. I felt DN's guns were good enough that they deserved a mod to themselves, honestly.

[Big C]

Just wanted to pop in and say that the early techbase and city levels in Freedoom go along pretty well with this mod (both gameplay and graphics wise) in case people wanted level suggestions.

[armymen12002003]

there is doomworld's project which is doom 2 in name only the levels are big & excellent for this which is here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/6 ... -released/

[Captain J]

sorry for worthless chit chats, i really had to revamping your wad and release because my summer vacation is almost over and i need to do something about it.
so i did it, with two day has been passed.

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-revamped few weapon sounds. specially striker shotgun and m60.
-added new casing and it's bounding sounds for m40's casing, 40mm casing and .50-BMG Casings. and m60's casing sounds like a rubber, because those casings are rubber coated. oh, and did i mentioned about casing smokes and weapon smokes?
-remaked every massages and storylines in this wad. now john someguywiththepistol is now on rebel's side instead of police. and that's why version's name is terrorist. not a terrorists. and don't worry. i just fixed the every words about polices into a rebels on help at the menu screen, voices and titlemap.
-all enemies are now regained their more health. and that's the major point of my version. stronger enemies, stronger bosses.
-wester and mr. falcon now do a fancy attacks and rough healths also decent new death animations. if wester is throwing three grenades like a pussy and runaway, check out the mr. falcon. he throws all of them and ran away for a little bit same as wester. and yes, every explosive projectiled enemies now ran away for a sec after they throws grenades.
-added enjay's terrains effects from my korean friend's another version of terrorist. and his name is robotzealot. and his version had a lot's of effects and more dificult then my version, and i think i really don't want show 'em right now. also i just ripped it from his version into mine.
-added new musics also intros from metal slug 4~7. specially metal slug 5 tottaly fits with this wad because of Heavy Metals. Rock 'n Roll.
-added robotic pickup massages, nothing at all...but more detailed.

link eliminated for author's recommand.
so check it out. it's good as new.

P.S: also i wanted to add a ED-209 for this version because my version's enemies are now changed into a police. also this is the future too. but too bad lilwhitemouse's ED-209 was pretty unfinished to my eye. because when it's killed me, it's lag is still moving. and there's no ways to stop them.
but another version of my friend robotzealot already did it; with plenty of hyper fps heroes and bad guys.

[wildweasel]

I would really appreciate if you would ask me before you do this. I don't agree with much of the changes you've made here.

[edit] Or if you really MUST modify my mod, release it as a patch, not as a full version.

[Captain J]

otherwise, i maded my own every version of their wads without permissions. and everyone liked it instead of telling me a permissions.

but you're the one of the firtst person who told me a truth. not more like other peoples...what am i saying, it's too late for make it as a patch and i'm already feeling a guilt.

my only one medicine was delete this version's link, and only show 'em to my friends. i never knew after that. so please, forgive my ignorant.

[Ed the Bat]

Got a little something I'd like to offer up, if that's okay. Following in the vein of my Modified Nazis upload (which has since been revised a bit, incidentally), I'd like to present this:
Modified Terrorists
Once again, my objective was not to alter Weasel's work, but rather to fix bugs and fill in absent features, while preserving the original gameplay. Among the more notable changes present, weapons that are out of ammo no longer clog up your weapon cycle, most "gumby" (frozen animations) issues have been sniffed out and fixed, grenades can now be activated with the 'Use Inventory' key, and some visual bugs here and there (such as the Sherazi foregrip vanishing when kicking) are now fixed. Aside from this, a lot of under-the-hood code fixing has taken place, removing extraneous code, making some things more efficient, etc.

I will say upfront, I don't consider my work 'perfect' just yet, so if anyone finds an issue or mistake, I won't be terribly surprised. I also haven't yet had an opportunity to test this in multiplayer, so be forewarned, and please tell me if anything is amiss (even if it was borked in Weasel's original; I'll fix those too).

And before I forget, I believe this should still be compatible with the 'real weapon names' add-on. I'm also still patiently waiting on a feature suggestion to selectively control autoaim so that I can finally fix these grenades. Hope for the future...

Happy hunting!

[wildweasel]

Uh, hey, do you have a changelog or something I could use? I'd like to update my own copy here if this stuff is unconditionally better.

[Ed the Bat]

Uh, hey, do you have a changelog or something I could use? I'd like to update my own copy here if this stuff is unconditionally better.

Sad to say, keeping records of my exact changes is not one of my strongest habits... However, I will be happy to sift through it and compare it against the old version to recreate the list of changes. It might take me a day or so, though...

[-Ghost-]

Could you re-upload your modified version? I'm getting a 404 error when I try to download it.

[Ed the Bat]

Could you re-upload your modified version? I'm getting a 404 error when I try to download it.

Ah, looks like my ftp transfer failed when I wasn't looking. Sorry about that. Give it a try now.

Now, to add to that, here's the list of all the significant changes I could come up with:

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• Added new user CVAR to allow player to toggle auto-reloading (gun will reload automatically instead of dryfiring, if ammo is available)
• WeaponSlot definitions moved out of weapons and into playerclass definition (the old method seemed to behave badly under certain circumstances...)
• Taser-based pain state for player now quickly toggles the NOPAIN flag to prevent the player getting frozen forever if the tasing reaction gets interrupted by another reaction
• Playerclass declaration moved from KEYCONF to MAPINFO
• ACS script added to conjoin with the auto-reload CVAR
• Various unnecessary bits removed from script library (would like to double-confirm this to be true in multiplayer)
• Added new option submenu via MENUDEF to accommodate the new auto-reload option (currently the only item present)
• DECORATE cleanup across the board with formatting cleanup and inheritance-based condensing
• SBARINFO formatting cleaned up
• Weapons overhauled:
  -"Maxed" inventory items for each weapon are unnecessary (checks are now done for 3 "Levelup" items, for identical effect)
  -Holding reload no longer freezes the player's arms
  -Empty weapons can no longer be selected, to reduce clutter in weapon cycle (currently presents a small problem with Kuznetzov 47M; can't be used as grenade launcher if out of 7.62mm...)
  -Added "melee" weapon (kicks/taser without gun) that automatically selects if all ammo for all guns is depleted (cannot be selected normally)

I still urge that you (specifically Weasel, but anyone else who's interested also) try out my version to help verify that everything is working as intended, and that nothing is heinously broken. It would rather defeat the purpose of a bugfix revision if it broke things, wouldn't it.

[Captain J]

many thanks, that's gonna pretty useful for weasel and me(again, sorry. but least i deleted the download link.)!

[Ed the Bat]

While I'm thinking of it, just a couple of quick notes:
1. I'm finding that grenades lack the NOTELEPORT flag. I personally think they might do better with it. Something to think about...
2. I mentioned that using the Kuznetzov's underbarrel grenade launcher can be a problem now that empty weapons no longer show up in the weapon cycle. In addition to this, I realized emptying the spent shells from the Slugger may also be trickier, as will selecting a weapon before picking up an Ibex kit. However, I realized something else, which leads me to my next point...
3. I had forgotten briefly that the ability to select empty weapons is fully available to the player, at his/her preference, via the Gameplay Options menu, meaning the original behavior from the earlier version of this project can still be activated, but only if the player wants it (the way everything should be, in my opinion).

Again, if anyone else spots something that needs to be looked at, I'm happy to hear it out and investigate.