Corona - any cases here?

[Ozymandias81]

While Torm knows my situation, being very healthy and such, it is getting worse and worse here in Italy guys, we count around 90k total but frankly I think that there are more than double of that amount, too many new infections happen now and then and it is weird, unless you consider how many irresponsible dorks have moved from northern regions to south here (Italy) even being quarantined (and if caught you get 3/5000€ of penance plus 6 months of jail). I for personal reasons I must leave home quite everyday, and write always a new permission in case police stops me, but since now I have never been checked by anyone, even if my city is quite bigger (129.000 inhabitants) but fortunately with not many cases (300 mostly, with 30 deaths circa). Meanwhile while working on Blade of Agony and BlooM, I am also giving my contribute for a side project where you must kill Coronavirus, always with BlooM Team, and playing Doom64 too.

[wildweasel]

how many irresponsible fags

I know the situation's stressful all around, so I kinda don't want to make such a big deal of this, but could you use a different word that isn't so loaded?

[edit] thank you.

[CeeJay]

No case here yet but we, my self and family, are keeping ourselves semi-isolated to be on the safe side. We've stocked up on canned and dry food, enough to last a couple of months.

It's crazy how fast and far this thing has spread. I suppose it is partially the fault of all these morons who think it is a good idea to go overseas at times like this. Just the other week a group of Swedish tourists were contained in Italy. Can't say I feel sorry for them, even if that is how the media likes to spin it.

[Graf Zahl]

While Torm knows my situation, being very healthy and such, it is getting worse and worse here in Italy guys, we count around 90k total but frankly I think that there are more than double of that amount

Considering the extremely high death rate in Italy I'd say that "double" is grossly underestimating the real extent, I think we can safely assume 5x - 10x instead, judging from other numbers. Let's not forget that in China there were 40000 asymptomatic cases in addition to the officially reported 80000 who got sick. And even here it is a given that the real number of undetected cases is significantly higher - and most of these people can still walk around and infect others - especially the morons who dismiss all the safety precautions.

All that said, I'm far more concerned about the US by now when looking at some of the opinions held by the [censored word] faction over there. These people will continue acting as irresponsibly as possible until it's far too late.

No case here yet but we, my self and family, are keeping ourselves semi-isolated to be on the safe side. We've stocked up on canned and dry food, enough to last a couple of months.

That's the opposite side of the coin and IMO going a bit too far.
Fun stuff: I think if everybody was required to wear a face mask when going outside this thing would be over in a month - because all the bugs would be contained in the infected wearer's mask. But where to get all those masks?

It's crazy how fast and far this thing has spread. I suppose it is partially the fault of all these morons who think it is a good idea to go overseas at times like this. Just the other week a group of Swedish tourists were contained in Italy. Can't say I feel sorry for them, even if that is how the media likes to spin it.

I think by now that's no longer the issue. What I find interesting is that there were reports of some severe cases of pneumonia in Northern Italy long before the outbreak was registered. That outbreak alone couldn't have caused this insane spread - it was far too late to have infected all those tourists - but if the virus was already circulating in the skiing resorts in mid January or early February and infecting the tourists, that surely would. There were simply too many cases originating from the skiing resorts that match the official timeline.
And here lies the real issue. Since this thing ran rampant in tourism regions it literally spread everywhere from there in very little time and could do its damage.

[CeeJay]

Well, the food is mostly for emergency in the case of things getting much worse, not just with the virus but also people. Nothing is quite as dangerous as people in panic. As for the semi-isolation, we stay at home and only go out for occasional shopping and helping additional family members elsewhere. It is worth metioning that we have two elderly people living here. I don't think it is going too far, just minor precautions.

[Nmn]

Really happy you're recovering, Daniel

[Redneckerz]

While Torm knows my situation, being very healthy and such, it is getting worse and worse here in Italy guys, we count around 90k total but frankly I think that there are more than double of that amount, too many new infections happen now and then and it is weird, unless you consider how many irresponsible dorks have moved from northern regions to south here (Italy) even being quarantined (and if caught you get 3/5000€ of penance plus 6 months of jail). I for personal reasons I must leave home quite everyday, and write always a new permission in case police stops me, but since now I have never been checked by anyone, even if my city is quite bigger (129.000 inhabitants) but fortunately with not many cases (300 mostly, with 30 deaths circa). Meanwhile while working on Blade of Agony and BlooM, I am also giving my contribute for a side project where you must kill Coronavirus, always with BlooM Team, and playing Doom64 too.

Italy/Spain are real fireplaces, please stay safe.

I dread the US situation: 100.000+ infected, over 2000 deaths. US has the negative ''record'' of reaching these numbers in near half the time it took China and Italy to reach similar, surpassing them aswell.

It highlights that Corona is a silent assassin and why strenous measurements need to be taken: Here, in the NL, there was a Hague Market that remained open and popular despite the quasi-lockdown rules. Now it is revealed that out of those places more infected came around because of it.

This is why people need to take this seriously. Its a message that sails past by the the Brazilian president, Bolsonaro, who is downplaying the severity of Corona to a significant degree and wonders what the issue is.

[Graf Zahl]

I dread the US situation: 100.000+ infected, over 2000 deaths. US has the negative ''record'' of reaching these numbers in near half the time it took China and Italy to reach similar, surpassing them aswell.

The quick rise in numbers is not the result of a faster spread but of delayed start of widespread testing. We all know that many cases are as yet undetected so these numbers are not necessarily bad in themselves. In fact, considering the initial fast rise in other countries they are actually far too low if you ask me and showcase a lack of testing capacity.

This is why people need to take this seriously. Its a message that sails past by the the Brazilian president, Bolsonaro, who is downplaying the severity of Corona to a significant degree and wonders what the issue is.

Ironic, considering that several of his own advisors got hit by the bug. One shouldn't wish other people something bad, but he's definitely someone who needs to get his comeuppance served by the virus more than anybody else.

[Tormentor667]

Really happy you're recovering, Daniel

Thanks kindly Paul

Regarding the current situation in China, a friend of mine has good contacts to a few people living there and - believe it or not - what leaves the country through press is exactly the situation in China. They are recovering, the number of infected people is lowering and the number of deaths is lowering. About 80% of the factories down there are at 100% and half of the local shops is back from the lockdown. Interestingly this all seems only to work due to the consequences the chinese government has ordered.

People are wearing masks and secure clothes, maintining distances and follow the instructions. The statistics from China seem to be not faked. My friend simply told me that the chinese goverment has instantly accepted the danger from the virus and has ordered actions in a very short time to prevent further outbreak. And this is exactly the problem we have with Italy/Austria (in Tirol, the skiing resoirt Ischgl has been running another 2 weeks with a barkeeper being tested positive on the Corona virus) and with the US (and therefore another reason why I consider Trump the greatest idiot of all time, even worste than Bush jr.).

They didn't take the situation serious, they waited for too long.

[Rachael]

They didn't take the situation serious, they waited for too long.

It's worse than that. They want to "open the country" by Easter, even though projections suggest the pandemic will peak by then.

So any recovery effort we made in the past 2 weeks when we've "kind of" been social distancing will be for pretty much nothing - April is going to be a month of utter hell for the US.

[Redneckerz]

I dread the US situation: 100.000+ infected, over 2000 deaths. US has the negative ''record'' of reaching these numbers in near half the time it took China and Italy to reach similar, surpassing them aswell.

The quick rise in numbers is not the result of a faster spread but of delayed start of widespread testing. We all know that many cases are as yet undetected so these numbers are not necessarily bad in themselves. In fact, considering the initial fast rise in other countries they are actually far too low if you ask me and showcase a lack of testing capacity.

Indeed. Countries have a lack of testing equipment to deal with these. But what is reported is also subject to changes. Here, they can't count all cases, but ''suddenly'' they are now reporting higher numbers, due to a ''different way of counting.''

The reason given (''A different way of counting'') sounds profoundly silly. I have seen a similar argument been given in government financial reports when there is ''suddenly'' a surplus because of ''A different way of counting.''

Ironic, considering that several of his own advisors got hit by the bug. One shouldn't wish other people something bad, but he's definitely someone who needs to get his comeuppance served by the virus more than anybody else.

In times like these populist rhetoric by a president should be subject to actual lawful punishment. Its already dreadful enough to make hollow points when there isn't a crisis, but doing such denial at a time when deaths fall by the dozen and infections in the thousands its one universal reason to sack a president, no matter whether one is pro or against his political affilation.

It just highlights the naivety of such leaders and, because they don't know how to deal with it, resort to the tried and tested populist retort to gain prominence. Its scary that the first thought Bolsonaro is that of being a populist, instead of being concerned.

They didn't take the situation serious, they waited for too long.

It's worse than that. They want to "open the country" by Easter, even though projections suggest the pandemic will peak by then.

So any recovery effort we made in the past 2 weeks when we've "kind of" been social distancing will be for pretty much nothing - April is going to be a month of utter hell for the US.

Measurements should be a ton more strenous - and in line with European countries. It boggles my mind how the paramount leaders of the nation have not set in that thought, despite 2000+ deaths already.

And to think some of the senators there are actively calling to just keep the economy rolling - with elderly people signing up to literally ''die'' for said economy.

Imagine saying that in 2020. That's B-tier movie dialogue right there.

EDIT: Just read one of the recent Duke4 comments about this. It boggles my mind how users are actively spreading misinformation and tinfoil hat theories on Facebook. All so one can ''explain'' why this happens in the first place.

[Rachael]

EDIT: Just read one of the recent Duke4 comments about this. It boggles my mind how users are actively spreading misinformation and tinfoil hat theories on Facebook. All so one can ''explain'' why this happens in the first place.

Propaganda is real. It's a very powerful mind control tool if used properly - and American news media - especially Fox News - has mastered it like no other.

[Enjay]

This is why people need to take this seriously. Its a message that sails past by the the Brazilian president, Bolsonaro, who is downplaying the severity of Corona to a significant degree and wonders what the issue is.

What I don't understand is why so many leaders have done more-or-less the same thing, to a greater or lesser extent. So many leaders have initially gone with lines like "it's not a big deal", "the numbers are tiny", "we have a good system - we're OK", "it'll be over by [insert spurious date here].

Is it strategy, stupidity, the "it'll never happen to us" mentality, deliberately trying to keep people calm until policies can be enacted?

Even now, with half of the world in lockdown and after hundreds of thousands of cases and thousands of deaths, some leaders are still spouting the "it's no big deal" nonsense in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Mr Trump's statements on it over the last month or so follow an, shall we say, "interesting" progression and our very own Prime Minister, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, only two weeks or so ago was downplaying the severity, up-playing our preparedness and even refusing to be tested himself because there was "no need". Now he's appearing daily on our TVs: he is imploring us to stay home; closing pubs, clubs, theatres, empowering the police... ; sending texts to every phone in the UK and getting ready to send letters to every household. And, of course, (as of a couple of days ago) sitting at home self-isolating because he has contracted the virus himself (along with other members of government and Prince Charles)! I wonder if they will be standing in line at an NHS hospital?

[Rachael]

I wonder if they will be standing in line at an NHS hospital?

Of course not! If him downplaying the whole thing from the start was any indication, he believes the rules don't apply to him! And to a great extent, that is true.

If he suffers from complications, he'll be admitted immediately and have all the care he'll ever need, and only because he's rich and powerful. It's the rest of us who have to suffer waiting in queues.

[MartinHowe]

And just to add to the WTF factor, somebody on the town (Beccles, NR34, UK) Facebook group posted an appeal to help truckers being denied toilet facilities when delivering ... guess the first line of the appeal ... without looking at the spoiler?

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Let's make this go viral!

OK, who got it? Being serious, sadly this is not a fake, they really posted that