Monster Resource Wad

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:38 pm

All my stuff isn't "DECORATE"ed!

Chilvence · Post by **Chilvence** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:46 pm

Enjay wrote: Seeing as how I am going for an asymetrical enemy I have to do additional rotations for each sprite.

That never held id up, look at the shotgunguy and the zombieman

Post by **Enjay** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:49 pm

Bouncy wrote:k. also, BTW, are there any graphics you have that aren't in this wad already that i can use for DECORATE work?

I don't really have much. I've got a few graphics pulled from other games, some of which I have used in various places, but I have very little ready for importing "as is".

A lot of the stuff I have used myself is just recoloured and hacked around stuff from Strife, Blake stone and existing wads by other people. I guess nowadays there is little point in converting Strife stuff, seeing as how Zdoom Strife support is increasingly complete and most of the stuff I have from Blake etc will soon be duplicated as part of Tormentor's project.

If memory serves, I did pull graphics out of the various build game demos on JonoF's site ( http://jonof.edgenetwk.com/build/ ). Some of them are pretty good. Never got round to using many myself and quite a few are not very Doomy, but I do think I got most of the graphics out of most of the games (after a little trickery). Of course, I'd have to track down the files again, and none of the files would have convenient names or anything...

Post by **Enjay** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:53 pm

Chilvence wrote:That never held id up, look at the shotgunguy and the zombieman

Heh, yes I know. Problem is the plague imp has one skeletal leg and one skeletal arm (on the other side). It would look especially obvious if these started changing from left to right.

The hard part is I want to give him a close attack where he hits with one hand and then the other. So I need a full arm swing with the normal arm, and a full swing with the skeletal one too. With the id original imp sprites not being drawn from all 8 angles, even reversing them and saving them as the different angles does not give me a suitable template to work from.

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:26 pm

Well, I browsed through some of the Beastiary over at Nightmare's page and, the following monsters would be a nice achievement (if someone is interested in being a sprite artist):

Caco 2.0

Hitpoints: 650
Speed: 10
Melee Attack: Bite
Distance Attack: Volley of 3 purple/red fireballs (speed 10, damage 8)

NurgleDemon

Hitpoints: 400
Speed: 8
Melee Attack: Chomp
Distance Attack: 3x Caco fireballs (Speed 10 damage 5)
(might not be that hard to do, is a combi of the Caco and the underwater monster of DukeNukem3D

Cyber Knight

Hitpoints: 700
Speed: 8
Melee Attack: Singe claw (half damage of Baron)
Distance Attack: Volley of 3x flaming blobs (speed 20, damage 8)
(damn, this one looks cool!!!!)

Spidibus

Hitpoints: 2500
Speed: 12
Melee Attack: None
Distance Attack: 2x Flaming blobs (speed 20, damage 8)

TechPhyte

Aerial Imp

Hitpoints: 60
Speed: 8
Melee Attack: Claws (both hands & feet) (damage 10)
Distance Attack: A stream of 3 orange/red fireballs (speed 10, damage 5)

Fire Imp (Lesser, -, Greater)

Nightmare Imp

Hitpoints: 60
Speed: 16
Melee Attack: Claws (damage 15)
Distance Attack: Red fireball (speed 15, damage 3)

Imp Warlock

Hitpoints: 120
Speed: 8
Melee Attack: spell (no projectile graphic), pushing the player away (damage 15)
Distance Attack: swirling stream of green magic projectiles (speed 15, damage 5), green magic projectile (speed 25, damage 10)

Im Enforcer

Hitpoints: 300
speed:10
Melee: Claws (damage 10)
Distance attack: Chaingun

Skeletal Imp (Improved, Advanced)

Aqua Demon

(damn, how cooooooooooooool!!!)

Goliath Imp

Electro Demon

Hitpoints: 200
Speed: 12
Melee Attack: Electric shock (does damage and throws player back. Often quickly followed by the distand attack)
Distance Attack: Spits a single electroball (mainly blue and purple in colour, ala one of the fireballs from early versions of Doom)

War Knight

Hitpoints: 1200
Speed: 10
Melee Attack: Claws
Distance Attack: 2x Flaming blobss (speed 20, damage 8)

Armoured Revenant

Hitpoints: 600
Speed: 12
Melee: None
Distance attack: twin missles (speed 20, damage 20)

Trite (aka Head-Spiders)

Hitpoints: 100
Speed: 12
Melee Attack: Bite
Distance Attack: None

Vileus

Zombie Cruiser

Hitpoints: 400
Speed: 15
Melee: None
Distance attack: twin missles (speed 20 damage 20)
(yes, it's the cruiser gfx from DukeNukem)

Zombie Hound

Hitpoints: 25
Speed: 15
Melee Attack: Bite
Distance Attack: None

Big Bertha

...hey, why not?! *g*

Post by **Xaser** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:30 pm

I really want the cyberknight, Nurgledemon, and zombie cruiser. Those look damn cool. Also, the Electro demon doesn't look that hard to do. You'd just need to recolor the demon white and create some lightning stuff for the attack frames.

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:40 pm

@Xaser - If someone extracts the cruiser sprites from DukeNukem and sends them to my (webmaster at tormentor667 dot de) I will try it!

But for now, one new monster, the Lord of Heresy

Get it here: http://home.arcor.de/tormentor667/railg ... heresy.zip (just sprites)

Suggested Attacks:
Melee attack like the Baron
Far Attack 1 like the Baron
Far Attack 2: 3 Fireballs at one time in a radius of 20°
Far Attack 3: 3 series of 2 fireballs like the Mancubus (just the green slimeballs, no fire!)

Giest118 · Post by **Giest118** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:08 pm

I'd be happy to do the DECORATE work of some of those...

Nanami · Post by **Nanami** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:28 pm

To Enjay: The imp sprites from the Doom Alphas have all 8 rotations of imps. I highly suggest you take a look! I think they need some cleaning, but it should help.

To Tormentor: Most of those are just recolored monsters, and I'd like to stray away from using such. True, some of them like the Belphegor are just recolored, but the Belphegor is from ST. Although they're nice, I don't want to fill the wad up with recolored monsters. I do want to use the winged Baron you posted though.

To geist and Bouncy: If you'd like, go ahead and do some DECORATE for a few of these. I do most of the DECORATE work, but if you two want to lessen the load on me a bit and do a few things, go ahead. But just remember, please post the code on the thread, instead of just in the wad.

Post by **Bio Hazard** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:28 pm

Tormentor667 wrote:But for now, one new monster, the Lord of Heresy

a sprite of drfrag?

Nanami · Post by **Nanami** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:42 pm

Oh, again, to Tormentor:

* Of all those monsters, I don't want to see the ones that are copy&paste of some Duke monster with a Doom monster splatted on top (nurgle demon, imp enforcer, etc).

* The fire imps are cool, but mostly just recolored. The last one, though, with all the spikes, would be wicked.

* Espi already said he won't make the imp warlock. It's too much work.

* I'd love to see the Aqua Demon, but the Doom palette doesn't have those colors, do it'd have to be green or something.

Of those you listed though, I'd LOVE to see:
* Caco 2.0
* Greater Fire Imp
* Aqua Demon
* Electro Demon
* War Knight
* Vileus (I'd rename it to Velius, which I think is a term for Satan)
* Zombie Hound

Unfortunately I'm not sure if anyone's willing to take any of these on.

BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:57 pm

okay Nanami. tell me which monsters you want me to do the Decorate for, and i'll do them.

Nanami · Post by **Nanami** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:01 pm

For now I think just the winged Baron thing Tormentor posted.

BouncyTEM · Post by **BouncyTEM** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:04 pm

i'll get right to work on it.

Post by **Enjay** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:04 pm

I just noticed, when using MDK, the rocket launcher Zombies just disappeared instead of showing any kind of gibbing frames.