Some strange Heretic behaviour

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Re: Some strange Heretic behaviour

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Pinky's ass wrote:
Phobus wrote:You can make projectiles not cross terrain. It's called NOCHANGEFLOORPIC or something a bit shorter, which will stop anything from putting itself outside of it's floor flat. I've used this for my LandCarrier's engine projectiles... sadly this isn't entirely foolproof, as it means they can "jump" areas of flat that are less than their radius (which in their case is about 192, so they are quite capable of hopping up the walls outside of MAP01, for instance).
Uhm, should programmers add that flag to the Maulotaur?
Uhm, definitely not, since it would hugely change the gameplay in an undesired way in Heretic itself and any custom maps that use the Maulotaur?
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esselfortium wrote:Uhm, definitely not, since it would hugely change the gameplay in an undesired way in Heretic itself and any custom maps that use the Maulotaur?
I think it'll at least make the fights easier.
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Pinky's ass wrote:
esselfortium wrote:Uhm, definitely not, since it would hugely change the gameplay in an undesired way in Heretic itself and any custom maps that use the Maulotaur?
I think it'll at least make the fights easier.
Not the point. Maulators are not supposed to be easy, and it would be dumb to add a feature that changes gameplay based on texture choice to ZDoom.
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Re: Some strange Heretic behaviour

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The strange thing isn't that the flames can cross water. It's that if a maulotaur is standing in the water, slime, or lava when he tries to launch them, they will not appear at all. However, it he's standing on land, they will appear and cross over any surface like usual.

I think this only applies to vanilla Heretic though.
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Pinky's ass wrote:
esselfortium wrote:Uhm, definitely not, since it would hugely change the gameplay in an undesired way in Heretic itself and any custom maps that use the Maulotaur?
I think it'll at least make the fights easier.
Changing the intentional gameplay is a bad idea. Making the fights easier would usually make the game less exciting; there would be no challenge.
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Also see Enjay's photo on the end of Pg1.
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Unknown_Assassin wrote:
Pinky's ass wrote:
esselfortium wrote:Uhm, definitely not, since it would hugely change the gameplay in an undesired way in Heretic itself and any custom maps that use the Maulotaur?
I think it'll at least make the fights easier.
Changing the intentional gameplay is a bad idea. Making the fights easier would usually make the game less exciting; there would be no challenge.
Mmm, that's true.
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Pinky's ass wrote:
esselfortium wrote:Uhm, definitely not, since it would hugely change the gameplay in an undesired way in Heretic itself and any custom maps that use the Maulotaur?
I think it'll at least make the fights easier.
We should request that their hit points are set to 10 instead of 3000, too, in order to make the fight easier.
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Agreed. And whilst we are at it, the Cyberdemon needs to fire something far less explosive. Those rockets can be really dangerous. ;)
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They should be slower too. :laff:
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Oh, and spider masterminds firing bullets? That's madness! They should fire sunshine and happiness! Also, Megaspheres.
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And those arch-viles. They need to resurrect monsters for your team. and no more damage from those flames either.
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The Icon of Sin needs to be changed to fire railguns out of its eyes. No, not rails. Actual railgun pickups.
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Enjay wrote:Agreed. And whilst we are at it, the Cyberdemon needs to fire something far less explosive. Those rockets can be really dangerous.
Small firecrackers? :P
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Fire can burn over water. However, it cannot burn underwater. For example, if you pour gasoline (or petrol in Enjay's case) into the water, following up with a match immediately behind it, if done correctly it should wind up creating a fueled explosion of flame that engulfs the surface of the liquid. However, as the petrol sinks to the bottom (being heavier than water) the fire will eventually go out after a short bit.

And it's magical. Magical fire burns everything. Especially people.
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