Changing Triggers

[Hindsight2020]

I want to make a door that must first be triggered by being hit, but then switch to use button. Is it possible to switch triggers in scripting?

I have much faith in this site, you all have always been on the spot!

Thanks for your help doomers!

[Arch]

As far as I know, it can't be done. The way I would try to hack it:

Three lines, as close as possible. First one is the shootable one. Second one is a block players line, and the third the usable switch, that cant be reached now because of the blocking line (ajust the distance). You need a script for the first one, so when it is shot, it also unblocks the second one (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Line_SetBlocking). Now you can reach the third line and use it to open the door.

Not guaranteed it will work, but you can give it a try.

[cocka]

It can only be done in UDMF where you can set more than one activation mode on a line.

Demo wad: (Hexen in UDMF)

updated version:

aktivacio.wad

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[Hindsight2020]

As far as I know, it can't be done. The way I would try to hack it:

Three lines, as close as possible. First one is the shootable one. Second one is a block players line, and the third the usable switch, that cant be reached now because of the blocking line (ajust the distance). You need a script for the first one, so when it is shot, it also unblocks the second one (http://zdoom.org/wiki/Line_SetBlocking). Now you can reach the third line and use it to open the door.

Not guaranteed it will work, but you can give it a try.

I could just SetLineSpecial(0,0,0) the shootable and SetLineSpecial(ACS_Execute,#,#) the use line. I could see this working! I'll let you know how it does, thanks for the idea!

[Hindsight2020]

It can only be done in UDMF where you can set more than one activation mode on a line.

Demo wad: (Hexen in UDMF)

updated version:

aktivacio.wad

There's so much that UDMF can do that Hexen Format can't. Ticks me off cause I started this map before I knew about UDMF. Now I'm too far to start over. Way too far. Thanks for the heads up, tho. Everything I do going forward will most certainly be in UDMF.

[Kappes Buur]

There's so much that UDMF can do that Hexen Format can't. Ticks me off cause I started this map before I knew about UDMF. Now I'm too far to start over. Way too far. Thanks for the heads up, tho. Everything I do going forward will most certainly be in UDMF.

There are several ways to convert your map from Hexen format to UDMFormat.
I recommend METHOD 4, using GZDoombuilder r1744 or later.

[XCVG]

That's handy to know. I've been converting maps by copy/pasting in GZDoom Builder then manually changing all the line specials. Yes, it's horrible. I could never get ZWADCONV or WAD2UDMF to work, mostly because I didn't realize I needed to use both.

[Hindsight2020]

OMG how did I not know this? Lol thanks so much for the heads up on that. On vacation now. Will try that first thing when I get home. I'll post my results here.

[cocka]

Converting from ZDoom (Doom in Hexen) format to UDMF format using only GZDoombuilder.

And how do you guarantee that lineids will be OK?

I would recommend this converter:

[wiki]UDMFConvert[/wiki]

The only drawback of this program is that it won't write the indices next to the map elements. Though DB2 or GZDB does that if you modify the map somehow.

When I used wad2udmf it preserved all the lineset_id specials and didn't convert them to line tags and I had to set them again in the editor and as far as I remember some of the action specials didn't work. That's because of the different functioning of some specials.

One example is: soundsequence on a sector..

And of course after conversion there will be a lot of surplus scripts.

[cocka]

But if you want to have your map completely messed up then feel free to use wad2udmf.

[Hindsight2020]

And of course after conversion there will be a lot of surplus scripts.

Why would there be surplus scripts? Things that can be done in the editor?

[cocka]

Things that can be done in the editor?

Yes, in hexen format.

Examples:

line_setid lines or polyobj_start or explicit lines with lineids

setlinespecial, Line_SetTextureOffset, Line_SetTextureScale, Line_SetBlocking, setlinetexture etc..

and some of the sector action specials: Sector_ChangeSound, Sector_SetCeilingScale(2), Sector_SetFloorScale(2), Sector_SetRotation, Sector_SetCeilingPanning, Sector_SetFloorPanning, Sector_SetColor, Sector_SetFade, Sector_SetGravity, Sector_ChangeFlags, Transfer_CeilingLight, Transfer_FloorLight

Front side only flag -> LineSide

TranslucentLine

and there might be some others but I don't know any more.

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[Hindsight2020]

Well that's quite a bit. lol I find the sector_SetFade and SetColor very exciting. I can see that making my life quite a bit easier. I'm excited to get back home now so I can try this out. I've come to believe that there is nothing that can't be done SOMEHOW in Doom these days. Keep the advice coming if anyone can think of something.

Thanks again for all of your help!

[Hindsight2020]

Converting from ZDoom (Doom in Hexen) format to UDMF format using only GZDoombuilder.

And how do you guarantee that lineids will be OK?

I would recommend this converter:

[wiki]UDMFConvert[/wiki]

The only drawback of this program is that it won't write the indices next to the map elements. Though DB2 or GZDB does that if you modify the map somehow.

Having some trouble with UDMFConvert. I found the program and DL'd it but there was no EXE file or anything that I recognize how to use. It's just a Visual Studio project. How do I use this Converter?

Thanks

[Kappes Buur]

If you absolutely must use UDMFConvert, then check this out

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f= ... rt#p645501