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Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Gez » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:50 am

This is dependent on people not screwing it up when setting their thread title.

Also, [TC] would be a terrible tag. It's too short to be searchable.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by The Ultimate DooMer » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:09 am

All this talk of tags seemed to have stopped the idea from going through...wouldn't it be easier to have the original idea (maps forum) and people just adding [TC], [GZDoom], [Hexen] etc. on the front of their thread titles? (it's not like there's gonna be a huge list of projects for us to click on just to see what they are)

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by NeuralStunner » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:17 pm

I wouldn't argue with 3DGE getting its own dedicated forum, though. It could use a place for dev, help and project threads. (And certainly deserves it.)

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Xaser » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:46 pm

I like the idea of tags because they're not mutually exclusive. You can have individual "map" and "gameplay mod" tags and assign both to apply to something that has both (e.g. ZDCMP2). May be worth brainstorming which tags to "standardize".

Would need moderator help to work, as mentioned, but I'm all for it. Multi-tag filtering would be a must, though.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Gez » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:49 pm

IIRC, users could remove the tags that they had added themselves, whether it was their own topic or not.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by DoomRater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:16 am

Gez wrote:In tagging systems I've used before, anyone could tag a thread. The OP could put up to five tags, other posters could put up to two tags. Moderators/admins had the ability to add and remove any tag without limitation, of course.
This sounds ideal. Adding a report reason for tags under the report button would help too, just in case someone was incorrectly tagging things, since I assume normal users cannot remove tags that aren't part of their own threads.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by NeuralStunner » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:20 am

Graf Zahl wrote:Of course that'd work only if it was enforced. Knowing how people are you can bet that most wouldn't bother tagging their threads.
So their mods would be more likely to get lost/missed/ignored. If they're that lazy, the consequences are their problem, IMO.

The opposite was actually just as much, if not more of, a problem. Dimwits grasping for attention will use anything (tags, topic icons, animated smilies, all caps titles, &c.) to get their trashpost noticed.

As far as plugin-based options: I settled on the Topic Multi-Moderation mod (which includes thread prefixing as a feature). Only issue I see with it is that you can only filter the post list by one tag at a time.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Gez » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:02 pm

In tagging systems I've used before, anyone could tag a thread. The OP could put up to five tags, other posters could put up to two tags. Moderators/admins had the ability to add and remove any tag without limitation, of course.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Graf Zahl » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:51 pm

Of course that'd work only if it was enforced. Knowing how people are you can bet that most wouldn't bother tagging their threads.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Gez » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:14 pm

A previous version of the forum used phpBB, and there was a tag system.

There are a few tagging systems for phpBB, exempli gratia, and those are just the first two results from a quick search, not a real investigation into the subject. They actually seem better than the thread title tagging system I've seen before, because you can apparently easily add multiple tags -- e.g., "Heretic, GZDoom, maps, custom content" could be the tag list for HPack, and then someone could search for thread tags to get all the Heretic projects and find it. Something that works more like the categories on the wiki than like just a prefix on the thread title.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by wildweasel » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:52 pm

What'd probably work better is if there's a forum plugin that can be used specifically for the Projects forums, which lets users assign a tag from a predetermined list. Realm667's submission areas have a similar thing in place, but they don't run phpBB.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by NeuralStunner » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:25 pm

Graf Zahl wrote:I think, having 3 forums, for mods, maps and combined projects is enough, if tags can be made mandatory.
Agreed. (If not mandatory, at least a "this is strongly suggested, otherwise people will have trouble finding your mod".)

What's needed for tags to do be worth much: Clickable search links (displayed as topics) for various tags. I'll even volunteer to write up such a post, if the subforums & guidelines happen.

I don't envy anyone that intends to retag a bunch of existing projects, though. :P

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Zanieon » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:59 pm

Zandronum forums has Tags for those, and it doesn't help much find anything anywhere.

I agree in subforums though.

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by edward850 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:40 pm

Pretty much. Tags are missing the point unless they can be sorted and filtered. Filtering actual maps from the sea of weapon/gameplay mods was the original request. :P

Re: [Forums] New sub-forums

by Graf Zahl » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:37 pm

Except those who now must wade through the mess to find something interesting. The system as it is is ultiately self-defeating.
I think, having 3 forums, for mods, maps and combined projects is enough, if tags can be made mandatory.

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