The gun needs a bit of work which I can probably fix, but shading/lighting is not really my forte. The only thing I can really say is that there probably shouldn't be any lighting on the third (the nose should be fine and the gun could use a bit of lighting on it) fourth and fifth frames. seeing as how the lighting is on the right side of the Square's body, it shouldn't appear on the left side of his body. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I can give that a shot later today.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:21 pm
by Jimmy
Okay. Better?
Just FYI, the gun is not meant to represent an actual in-game weapon - it's the kind of "generic gray weapon that looks vaguely like the weapon you're actually carrying if you scrunch your eyes up and gaze at it from a distance" that Doom and Duke3D both use.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:37 pm
by lizardcommando
That's better.
Although I'd wait for someone else with more art knowledge to help out with the lighting.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:12 pm
by Phobus
Personally I think forcing the perspective in the sprite for #2#8 frames is the wrong approach. Having the square be the same height all along it's width, but less wide with the features on the face suitably less wide would work better IMO. The lighting for the firing frame looks quite nice though, if perhaps a little bright on 5 frames.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:29 pm
by Jimmy
Like-a thees?
...It's cheap but I think I like it this way.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:18 pm
by Phobus
That's the sort of thing - maybe even shrink the width a little more to make it more of a 45 degree angle Looks more natural to me I think.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE (YOU decide the monsters!
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:21 pm
by Jimmy
Okay, here goes something radical.
Since The Adventures of Square will be a TC, it will feature new enemies, as mentioned before. However, as also mentioned before, the existing bestiary consists of terrible abominations which were conjured up by my overactive 15-year-old imagination. Therefore I'm opening up the conception of the new Adventures of Square bestiary to the whole forum!
The game is simple: Come up with an idea for monster that might fit the mod, and I'll make it! Consider which monster it would be likely to replace, what attacks it would have, and what it would look like (and also how easy it would be for me to sprite it, before you get too carried away ). Of course, given the simple visual style of the TC, I can do just about anything.
Let's make this mod epic together, guys!
I'll give some existing monsters to get us started. These will likely stay in the mod, but if you guys can come up with anything better, then these ones might get replaced in the final version of the 4-map demo, and released as a "Director's Cut" AoS bestiary WAD. (And don't worry, you might get to see all the old monsters at some future point. )
Spoiler: Beware, madness lies within
Mr Smiley - replaces Cacodemon. Sprite swap of the original, but slightly weaker. Eyeball - replaces Lost Soul. Simple sprite swap but slightly weaker. Eyescreamer - replaces Pain Elemental. Sprite swap. Boxbot - replaces Mancubus. Sprite swap. Rocket Ron - replaces Revenant. Is a little different, behaviorally, in that it has two weapons - a missile launcher and a laser cannon (instead of its melee attack).
All of these monsters are either of a geometrical appearance, or just the most cool-looking monsters in the existing bestiary. If possible, let's keep the geometrical theme going, so for instance it'd be cool if things like "a floating triangle with a single eye that fires mind beams" were suggested. Just an example, that one, though I may actually do that.
Now, fire away, forum!
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE (YOU decide the monsters!
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE (YOU decide the monsters!
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:22 pm
by PFL
That is impossible but just for the fun of it... Gumb Vile
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE (YOU decide the monsters!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:59 am
by Matt
The Punct: A gibbering, crawling mass of black-letter punctuation marks that spits periods and occasional ellipses (slower but last much longer) that crawl about and swarm you. If killed (though sometimes these guys also appear on their own), the Punct dissolves into a group of a random collection of dots, ellipses, and the following:
! - moves v. fast, hitscans, explodes on death.
? - random ranged attack, extremely erratic movement incl. teleports.
/ - moves v. fast, randomly unshootable, melee only.
"" - floats, vicious bite attack, shoots dot-like projectiles at you.
- - like the ellipsis but floats and has a lost soul charge.
* - teleports, hitscan, explodes on death.
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE (YOU decide the monsters!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:51 am
by XutaWoo
Chickoteer - A chicken tank. To be specific, a chicken head on tank treads and a cannon for a forehead. Hard but slow, its projectile attack comes out fast, though the projectile itself, while damaging, is still slow enough to see coming. It can also chomp down on Square if he dares get too close. Replaces the Hell Knight.
Also, perhaps some kind of Wolfenstein SS replacement that replicates the Metal Slime from Dragon Quest, which is fast, durable, has a tendacy to teleport away forever, and drops a ton of ammo and perhaps even a powerup on death?
Re: [WIP] The Adventures of SQUARE (YOU decide the monsters!