BIG monsters can't melee you

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sat May 01, 2004 3:22 pm

Big monsters (depending on radius) can't use a melee attack, no matter how hard you try. I think the radius I had was 50, and all the monster did was bounce off me.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 01, 2004 3:43 pm

That's not surprising considering the formula Doom uses for melee range checks. Does it surprise anyone that this was hard coded by id to the radius of smaller monsters?

I think the best way to handle this is to add a MELEERANGE property to monsters. This way it can be freely set for special monsters.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sat May 01, 2004 5:34 pm

Also you can't melee monsters that big (Or you couldn't last time I tried to punch a spidermastermind) But this happened in the original so I don't mind that much

wildweasel · Post by **wildweasel** » Sat May 01, 2004 5:47 pm

I've only ever landed one punch on a Cyb, and Spiders are nigh impossible because they're always firing at you.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Sat May 01, 2004 6:03 pm

command = freeze

Or just sneak up behind one and BAM

Post by **Chris** » Sat May 01, 2004 7:44 pm

I thought the inability to melee big monsters was fixed recently?

Zell · Post by **Zell** » Sun May 02, 2004 11:43 am

Uhh...does chainsaw count as melee(in the doom engine

)? Becuase I could always go up to any big monster and hack away with the chainsaw...

wildweasel · Post by **wildweasel** » Sun May 02, 2004 11:59 am

Zell: Did you try a Mastermind?

Post by **Kate** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:07 pm

It's likely he tried to... Hell, I beserk punch Arachnotrons, so why not saw a Spider Mastermind?

Post by **randi** » Mon May 03, 2004 9:28 am

Chris wrote:I thought the inability to melee big monsters was fixed recently?

It was.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:54 pm

Sorry to bump, but is this fixed? You can melee big monsters but they can't melee you (Someone seemed to have twisted the topic around

)

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:57 pm

Unless the melee range has been made dependent on the radius - or even better - configurable, no. This would be a great option for DECORATE modification.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:06 pm

Heh, monsters that could melee you from miles away? That would be fun...

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:08 pm

I was thinking more about something like Half-Life's zombies with extremely long arms.

Cutmanmike · Post by **Cutmanmike** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:11 pm

Ooo. Would this be possible with decorate weapons too? With that, I could make Doctor octopus tenticals as a weapon (omg hint)