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Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:42 pm
by MajorFoley
Hi guys so the DOOM wads were found fine on my old PC however when i moved gzdoom to my new PC it's having an issue finding them. My default directory for steam is my C:\ SSD drive but my games library are on a steam library in my F:\ drive. When i moved the games back to the SSD GZdoom has no issues finding them but if i move them elsewhere thats not there or the GZdoom folder it doesn't find them. This intentional or is something going on?

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:45 am
by Graf Zahl
GZDoom needs to know where Steam stores its data. By moving it around you have apparently severed the tie between this data and the information pointing to it.
Did you move the files from within Steam or by using Explorer?

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:52 am
by MajorFoley
Graf Zahl wrote:GZDoom needs to know where Steam stores its data. By moving it around you have apparently severed the tie between this data and the information pointing to it.
Did you move the files from within Steam or by using Explorer?
When i was moving to the new PC i first installed steam on the SSD which had absolutely no games on it, then copied my steam library folder from my other PC to this ones HDD and pointed steam towards it. I did try just reinstalling the games into the steam library folder but it didn't like that either.

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:26 am
by Graf Zahl
Yes, in that case GZDoom loses the information where to find it. For that Steam needs to be reinstalled with the new folder.

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:50 am
by MajorFoley
Graf Zahl wrote:Yes, in that case GZDoom loses the information where to find it. For that Steam needs to be reinstalled with the new folder.
I didn't copy/paste steam i gave it a fresh install on the SSD and just copied over the games from the steamapps folder to my HDD library folder instead how is that losing info? When i get up (4am here) I'll take out my old PC and check because im damn sure that was on the HDD and found it fine, could be mistaken.

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:09 am
by wildweasel
MajorFoley wrote:
Graf Zahl wrote:Yes, in that case GZDoom loses the information where to find it. For that Steam needs to be reinstalled with the new folder.
I didn't copy/paste steam i gave it a fresh install on the SSD and just copied over the games from the steamapps folder to my HDD library folder instead how is that losing info? When i get up (4am here) I'll take out my old PC and check because im damn sure that was on the HDD and found it fine, could be mistaken.
You need to do the entire process of installation "legit." You can't just copy the library - you need to install Steam from its installer, and install Doom through Steam. This is because the install process adds registry entries so that Windows knows where the game is "supposed" to be, and those registry entries are what GZDoom needs to identify where a Doom install lives. Moving the folder around means it's no longer living in the place where it's registered, and GZDoom has no idea where to.

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 am
by MajorFoley
wildweasel wrote:
MajorFoley wrote:
Graf Zahl wrote:Yes, in that case GZDoom loses the information where to find it. For that Steam needs to be reinstalled with the new folder.
I didn't copy/paste steam i gave it a fresh install on the SSD and just copied over the games from the steamapps folder to my HDD library folder instead how is that losing info? When i get up (4am here) I'll take out my old PC and check because im damn sure that was on the HDD and found it fine, could be mistaken.
You need to do the entire process of installation "legit." You can't just copy the library - you need to install Steam from its installer, and install Doom through Steam. This is because the install process adds registry entries so that Windows knows where the game is "supposed" to be, and those registry entries are what GZDoom needs to identify where a Doom install lives. Moving the folder around means it's no longer living in the place where it's registered, and GZDoom has no idea where to.
Which i ended up trying and it didn't work either. I think i mentioned that in my 2nd post if i didn't I apologise but i did uninstall all DOOM's. Closed steam restarted my PC and reinstalled them. Still didnt change anything

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:32 am
by Rachael
I think it should be noted that GZDoom cannot detect Doom installs in external libraries. I don't know if that's intentional or not or just a shortcoming of how the feature was implemented, but Doom must be installed to Steam's internal library in order for GZDoom to detect it.

Re: Steam libraries and doom Wads

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:35 am
by MajorFoley
Rachael wrote:I think it should be noted that GZDoom cannot detect Doom installs in external libraries. I don't know if that's intentional or not or just a shortcoming of how the feature was implemented, but Doom must be installed to Steam's internal library in order for GZDoom to detect it.
Just booted up my old PC and yeah they found it, but im pretty sure also Steam was installed on that HDD to begin with so you may be right. I think i'll just move it for now and hope one day it will detect external libraries, would be great. I do remember people saying you can change the paths, could i make it discover the doom files by pointing to the commons folder so it can find every wad or do i have to point them to the specific folders each time? (so i would have to add a line for each doom wad)