D4D - New Trailer and release date! [d3ds' derail]

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D4D - New Trailer and release date! [d3ds' derail]

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I dunno... they could say that MC is stealing the marketshare of Doom 16 buyers that don't have computers powerful enough to play Doom 16. (Although even I have to say that would be counterintuitive since within 5-10 years most people should have computers powerful enough to play Doom 16. I know I'm going to buy Doom 16 when I get a proper upgrade. Or an xbox or a playstation.)

Not that this mod is bad, by any means, but the real deal is different than this.

Hmmm... would this mod qualify as a demake of Doom 16?

edit: What if Sergeant Mark IV issues a C&D due to similarities between Doom 16, Brutal Doom, and D4D? :woh:
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I don't think they would serve a C&D to the creators of this D4D right after giving them a shoutout on Twitter. Sounds like it would spell bad news bears for Bethesda.

That being said, the attention span of the internet is notoriously short. Whatever you do, do NOT let Bethesda find out that D4D is a superior competitor to Doom 4 that improves upon it in every possible way.
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Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:edit: What if Sergeant Mark IV issues a C&D due to similarities between Doom 16, Brutal Doom, and D4D? :woh:
I would be real surprised if he has that kind of money.
Gamer With Dignity wrote:That being said, the attention span of the internet is notoriously short. Whatever you do, do NOT let Bethesda find out that D4D is a superior competitor to Doom 4 that improves upon it in every possible way.
You do realize this is a public thread, right? :mrgreen:

I know Bethesda isn't Gearbox, and at any rate Bethesda has made frivolous lawsuits before. It's the same thing with all major corporations - just because they act all friendly now doesn't mean that's how they stay. For some reason or another they frequently get that "lawsuit bug" in their pants and figure taking you to court will get them more money. I'm not saying that's what will happen here - I am just saying it happens frequently enough - and it's why I hate major corporations.
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Eruanna wrote:
Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:edit: What if Sergeant Mark IV issues a C&D due to similarities between Doom 16, Brutal Doom, and D4D? :woh:
I would be real surprised if he has that kind of money.
So you admit that SM4 would have a case... IF he had the money.
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Uh, spoiler tag please? That image is HUGE.
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Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:So you admit that SM4 would have a case... IF he had the money.
I never "admitted" anything - and I would very much appreciate you not putting words in my mouth like that.

All I said was I would be surprised if he has the kind of money to pull that off. Selling weed doesn't make the kind of money that requires - you're taking on a corporation here.
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Eruanna wrote:
Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:So you admit that SM4 would have a case... IF he had the money.
I never "admitted" anything - and I would very much appreciate you not putting words in my mouth like that.

All I said was I would be surprised if he has the kind of money to pull that off. Selling weed doesn't make the kind of money that requires - you're taking on a corporation here.
Eh, I swiped that image from imgur randomly... I couldn't find anything interesting.

But in the USA, frivolous lawsuits are considered a part of what we are. Without that, what would we be? Russia?

Unlike those psychos, we don't have our citizens "prepare" for a nuclear war. Most of our citizens know that the best response is to just lie down, close their eyes, and wait for death.

And our megawads for Doom are of better quality. :blergh:
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Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:
Eruanna wrote:
Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:So you admit that SM4 would have a case... IF he had the money.
I never "admitted" anything - and I would very much appreciate you not putting words in my mouth like that.

All I said was I would be surprised if he has the kind of money to pull that off. Selling weed doesn't make the kind of money that requires - you're taking on a corporation here.
Eh, I swiped that image from imgur randomly... I couldn't find anything interesting.

But in the USA, frivolous lawsuits are considered a part of what we are. Without that, what would we be? Russia?

Unlike those psychos, we don't have our citizens "prepare" for a nuclear war. Most of our citizens know that the best response is to just lie down, close their eyes, and wait for death.

And our megawads for Doom are of better quality. :blergh:
(Getting a little racist, I'd say...)
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You can not get into trouble for making doom 2 mod... The guns in this mod are way more different than guns in doom 2016 so you can't give it a possibility that this mod could get the developers in shit. Plus they are not charging you money for the mod they are making with the doom 2016 idea so they don't have any legal right to open court case on people that work for D4D mod..
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mutator wrote:You can not get into trouble for making doom 2 mod... The guns in this mod are way more different than guns in doom 2016 so you can't give it a possibility that this mod could get the developers in shit. Plus they are not charging you money for the mod they are making with the doom 2016 idea so they don't have any legal right to open court case on people that work for D4D mod..
That did not stop Nintendo from going after AM2R... :?
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JohnnyTheWolf wrote:
mutator wrote:You can not get into trouble for making doom 2 mod... The guns in this mod are way more different than guns in doom 2016 so you can't give it a possibility that this mod could get the developers in shit. Plus they are not charging you money for the mod they are making with the doom 2016 idea so they don't have any legal right to open court case on people that work for D4D mod..
That did not stop Nintendo from going after AM2R... :?
Even if you open court case you got to have an evidence that you are right with your claim and with this situation Bethesda would fail miserably hard ;)
NOTE: Court doesn't care who you are, court cares what evidence you have to cover what you say
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Wait, so you are saying the AM2R team could have ignored Nintendo's cease and desist and continued to work on their game?
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JohnnyTheWolf wrote:Wait, so you are saying the AM2R team could have ignored Nintendo's cease and desist and continued to work on their game?
No you're still required to go court I mean it will be illegal to not attend court if they are calling you over.. But if you know law well they can't really do jack shit to you :P
I mean the people that sue you won't win... courts don't care about how fancy position or money you have, they care about who is RIGHT and WRONG so.. if you are not impersonating someone's product and not trying a business with it or trying to lower the reputation of company with your work THEN they literally got NO right to sue you my dear ;)
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Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:edit: What if Sergeant Mark IV issues a C&D due to similarities between Doom 16, Brutal Doom, and D4D? :woh:
Issue a C&D over a mod of a game (said mod containing features that have been in the industry for nearly 20 years) to a company that owns the rights to the game he's modding, a mod that uses tons of code made by other people with resources ripped from other games and drawn by other artists, some even from other games owned by the company he's C&D'ing. Then issuing a C&D to a different mod not containing anything by him for a game he owns nothing of based on a game he owns nothing of for the sake of reclaiming lost income he doesn't get.

What compels you to even?
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Jaxxoon R wrote:
Doom 3 Doesnt Suck wrote:edit: What if Sergeant Mark IV issues a C&D due to similarities between Doom 16, Brutal Doom, and D4D? :woh:
Issue a C&D over a mod of a game (said mod containing features that have been in the industry for nearly 20 years) to a company that owns the rights to the game he's modding, a mod that uses tons of code made by other people with resources ripped from other games and drawn by other artists, some even from other games owned by the company he's C&D'ing. Then issuing a C&D to a different mod not containing anything by him for a game he owns nothing of based on a game he owns nothing of for the sake of reclaiming lost income he doesn't get.

What compels you to even?
Money.
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