[Request] Can someone make this into a gun?

[Nevander]

The short version:
I will love you if you make this into a real gun (details in the spoiler below): http://i.imgur.com/3RUQAOr.jpg

The long version:

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I tried to make what I needed on my own, and while mildly successful, it didn't turn out quite the way I wanted. Just one weapon (with pickup and animated of course). Now, onto the details.

You guys remember D!ZONE? The shovelware levels from WizardWorks in the late 90's? Well some of those boxes had what they called "simulated screenshots." Meaning, they made some cheap render of some kind and then pretended it was Doom, or that one or more of the levels included would appear like advertised. Apparently they couldn't actually use any Doom material in advertising. This infuriated many I'm sure, me included.

I've decided that for my super secret level of my megawad (MAP32), I will create this level in a playable and faithful form. I can handle map design. I've already finished the map more or less, I just need to balance it using this gun. Found textures to match from Community Chest 4, and I'm basing the areas of the map off the screenshots making sure to recreate each one as faithful as possible to the faked shots. The only problem is... the weapons and enemies they faked. If I were any good at making sprites or had Photoshop or something, I might could do a good job. Problem is, I seem to suck at this. This is why I am asking for help. Wouldn't be very cool if you entered the level and everything was there except the gun you always wanted to use.

Here's a screenshot from my map:


Here are some screenshots and stuff that you will be able to use in crafting the sprites:
screenshots
front cover HQ scan
back cover HQ scan
closeup of the gun

So onto the guns... I've seen three guns on the faked shots.

The one I for sure would like made is the first one many people saw first. It's a cyan or turquoise rifle of some kind which resembles a railgun of some sort (top middle and bottom right/left screenshots). I envision it firing single high powered shots similar to a railgun. The gun doesn't appear to move when fired but feel free to move it as needed during animation. I would suggest simply making it animate upwards or downwards a small amount to give the effect of recoil, similar to the Doom 64 shotgun. The gun flash appears to be some kind of radial flash with transparency. The transparency is impossible I think in a software renderer, so you can ignore that. As far as sounds go, probably any railgun sound set would work well, but that's the last thing on the priority list.

As long as I can turn that rail gun looking thing into a working gun, I'm happy. I'm going to call it the "Ray Caster." You will be highly exalted in my work so you shall succeed.

Thanks!

What's been made thusfar:

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agaures


Blox


ravage


osjclatchford


Full spritesheet:


Edit of flashes by HazeBandicoot:


Screenshots from in-game (outdated):



Link to album: http://imgur.com/a/QzMM2

[Gifty]

Almost looks like the Strife machinegun, that'd probably be the easiest base to use.

[agaures]

Shitty attempt No.1 - i've never done cylindrical weapons before go easy on me


(scaled 2x)

Edit:
Need Blox in here to do his magic.

[Nevander]

That already looks a thousand times better than anything I tried to make. I'd love to know how you guys do this kind of stuff. Doesn't help that I draw like a fourth grader.

All it needs now is some details (like the cross thing down the middle and side edges if possible), animated, and the right colors. I know that shade of blue isn't in the Doom palette and changes to grey but maybe it can be tweaked enough to look close. A different shade of blue is fine so long as it's as close as you can get in the Doom palette. PNGs would be fine using truecolor, only downside is it will look grey in software mode.

Great job so far, and thanks. Really appreciate this. I more or less have some DECORATE code written that I've been messing around with. As far as the animation goes, it doesn't have to super long or smooth but maybe about 3-4 frames is good. Idle and a couple being fired is good.

[agaures]

Doesn't help that I draw like a fourth grader.

Oh believe me, i draw worse than a fourth grader IRL. I draw better with a mouse than a pencil.
Digital editing is different than pencil drawing anyway.

[Nevander]

Well I think I have the DECORATE written and polished pretty well. All I need is some sprites. I used that one you made just as a test and it looks pretty good even with just the one frame. I used offsets to make the sprite move, but it's far from perfect. Still need some other frames with a flash on the end and stuff. Also, while I like what you made, in-game it comes out looking a little thin. I think it's because of the aspect ratio correction in-game, things look thinner than the sprites do. Maybe a little thicker if possible.

Thanks again by the way.

[agaures]

Yeah it would be because of doom stretching pixels vertically by 120%.
Even then the sprite doesn't have the right perspective. I was trying to make it as close to the original picture as possible.

[Nevander]

Not sure if I mentioned in the OP but you can bend the rules a bit, that's fine by me. Making it wider and taking some creative liberties with design and color is fine as long as you can look at them side by side and tell they are meant to be the same weapon. I guess what I'm really asking is to try to get it as close as possible to the original picture but while looking good for a realistic Doom sprite at the same time, which means you're going to need to bend the rules some.

Thank WizardWorks for making it wrong in the first place. Using "simulated" shots make things look better than they can be. And on the subject of the map itself, some of those angles in the screenshots end up being impossible in the Doom engine, but I've managed to get pretty much 98% exact from using only those screenshots. In a sense I'm glad they did because now we will finally get to play that level that never existed. I've wanted to play it and use that gun ever since I saw the box, and when I found out it was faked for the box art I was pretty mad. Now that I know how to make maps and have some DECORATE knowledge, it was time for us to finish what they started.

[Dynamo]

heh, despite being fake, those screenshots look great, in a rebel moon/oldschool type of way. would be neat to see that turned into a proper game/TC for sure

[Blox]

wtf am i doing

not really 100% done but it's two in the morning and this is stupid so good night

[agaures]

Tried colouring it closer to the original.



Still not in perspective.

Edit:
Corrected perspective. Now it shouldn't look weird in game (besides my bad shading).



Just need to add some details or get blox to blox it up.

Edit2:

Forgot that the little ball is actually held by a rod.

[Nevander]

Wow I'm loving the details you guys put onto them. Looks incredible. If you can combine the fixed perspective one with the rest of the details and the closer coloring I think we'll have a winner!

[ravage]

I also posted this in the spriting thread, but here's my attempt at making those weapons.

[jdredalert]

Your weapons are the most faithful so far ravage. 10/10

[osjclatchford]

all of this! nice idea... glad to see I'm not the only one unbalanced enough to think and feel all of this nostalgia for dzone!