Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens NO SPOILERS
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Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens NO SPOILERS
So is anyone ultra pumped for the new Star Wars like I am? I know, I know, trailers tend to be much fancier than the real thing but from what I've been following of this installment on social media so far, and after watching this trailer... I have no doubts that this is FINALLY a modern-age Star Wars film done right. Now I know there's a lot of hate from the hardcore fandom for the original trilogy but I am probably one of the few rare people who actually liked them (especially episode III). While I can understand where the complaints come from, overall I think they were good movies on their own, had better lightsaber choreography and better visuals for its era (although they didn't age well - looks kinda like cheap CGI in 2015). Episode III was very powerful, IMO, especially during the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight at Mustafa. Easily one of my most favourite scenes in movies ever.
I just finished watching all 6 episodes back-to-back a few weeks ago and my assessment still stands.
Anyway, new Star Wars. Was definitely SUPER skeptical about it at first but looks like it's gonna be done right. The visuals look very modern, yet somehow retains some sort of surreal, practical retro vibe. Not sure if they've really upped their CGI game or if this is just really fancy film-making but I LOVE what I see. The trailer also gives off a very melancholic vibe to the entire movie, and I dig that kind of stuff.
Can't wait! The movie better live up to this trailer. :)
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Industrial Light & Magic is who made always the CGI for Star Wars, well, George Lucas founded this studio in 1975 just to make Star Wars but they evolved alot and now is the greatest CGI studio Hollywood ever had.
The lastest ILM's works are becoming less Post-Process intensive, due to movie directors recognizing their mistakes overusing it (e.g Battleship, Super 8 and Star Trek 2009), J.J Abrams especially since Star Trek Into Darkness stopped use excessive Lens Flares to give his movies a sci-fi feeling, he now did the same thing with SW7, but keeping a good part of the job with practical effects as Lucas did with the classic trilogy (but tbh who hated the new trilogy just because he used alot more CGI and doesn't have any better reason are retard)
Now, for me, i'm waiting to see this myself, i'm not on hype, and i'm not on a bad mood for this, Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness were good, but only after you really watching them, i hope the same happens to this Star Wars.
The lastest ILM's works are becoming less Post-Process intensive, due to movie directors recognizing their mistakes overusing it (e.g Battleship, Super 8 and Star Trek 2009), J.J Abrams especially since Star Trek Into Darkness stopped use excessive Lens Flares to give his movies a sci-fi feeling, he now did the same thing with SW7, but keeping a good part of the job with practical effects as Lucas did with the classic trilogy (but tbh who hated the new trilogy just because he used alot more CGI and doesn't have any better reason are retard)
Now, for me, i'm waiting to see this myself, i'm not on hype, and i'm not on a bad mood for this, Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness were good, but only after you really watching them, i hope the same happens to this Star Wars.
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now that ive gotten over my sadness that the EU got canned im very excited 
i never hated the prequels, tho i prefer the classic trilogy of course, still i hope the movie lives up to the hype, cause those trailers are great!

i never hated the prequels, tho i prefer the classic trilogy of course, still i hope the movie lives up to the hype, cause those trailers are great!
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I had to clean my monitor from the huge amount of jizz produced in the past 2 minutes - over, and over, and over...
To be less disgusting: After watching the final trailer, I am pretty sure that SW7 will catch the spirit of the original trilogy and do what people expect. This is going to be amazing.
To be less disgusting: After watching the final trailer, I am pretty sure that SW7 will catch the spirit of the original trilogy and do what people expect. This is going to be amazing.
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Reading some comments... ugh, why are some of the fans so negative about anything that's non original trilogy. :/ The nostalgia is just probably too strong with them. A common thing I see them repeat a lot is how Star Wars is now all just flashy visuals. Umm if George Lucas had the technology to do these kinds of visuals back in the day, I'm sure he would have done that. I watched all 6 back to back recently - after not watching a single SW movie for literally years (I'm pretty sure EP3 was the last one I watched, when it came out in the cinemas, whatever year that was) so I have a really fresh, unbiased mind to assess the movies. I watched them in the correct order of 4, 5, 6, 1, 2 , 3. I'm probably going to get butchered if I say that the acting in the original was corny as hell. The story and writing was good, of course, but good god listening to Luke talk got borderline annoying. I just can't understand why anyone would critically defend them and hate on the prequel trilogy so much, other than being nostalgic. I did watch Star Wars back in the early 90's so it's not like my judgment is based on a "new school" perspective but then again I was probably too young to remember... but I do know for a fact that as a kid, SW blew me away. I had quite a collection of Star Wars toys back then. Even though I didn't really understand much of what was going on in the movies (also noting the fact that my English wasn't so good as a little kid).
If anything, I feel that the acting in the prequels was almost just as corny, but writing-wise all 6 of them were pretty much the same. Remember that I watched these back to back (over a span of 2 days; 3 movies each) and in that short amount of time, I felt that generally everything flowed consistently. And obviously the "better" visuals of the prequels made it more enjoyable to watch. I'm sorry but the original unedited versions with the jerky stop motion just made me cringe. :/
Anyway, all is good in the hood, I enjoy all six movies, just don't understand all these negative bashers haha.
If anything, I feel that the acting in the prequels was almost just as corny, but writing-wise all 6 of them were pretty much the same. Remember that I watched these back to back (over a span of 2 days; 3 movies each) and in that short amount of time, I felt that generally everything flowed consistently. And obviously the "better" visuals of the prequels made it more enjoyable to watch. I'm sorry but the original unedited versions with the jerky stop motion just made me cringe. :/
Anyway, all is good in the hood, I enjoy all six movies, just don't understand all these negative bashers haha.
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Propbably they would answer this:Nash wrote:just don't understand all these negative bashers haha.
Random Fanboy 1 wrote:Lucas used too much CGI, he made shit on the new trilogy
Random Fanboy 2 wrote:The prequel trilogy is bad, poor writing of the storyline
^ That and only that is their reason to hate the prequel, those are people who likes to live watching movies in a VHS tape but plugged in a 49' LED TV, their hypocrisy is so big as they hate the Star Wars prequel because the abuse of CGI but loved what Joseph Kosinski did with Tron: Legacy, or hated Jurassic World because the CGI dinosaurs "don't look realistic" but loved the beauty Avatar had.Random Fanboy 3 wrote:All the prequels are the worst, they just used CG and nothing else, doesn't have the feelings of the old movies
Practical Effects are good, but CGI cuts the expensive time preparing them for using in real life, Lucas just did what any other Director would do, if Jurassic World was still directed by Steven Spielberg he would do the movie exactly the same way, he did before but the problem is that this kind of people don't accept that the time changes and their childhood was so good for their time as it are being for the kids now.
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I like the originals because of their (now) cheesy acting and special effects. So I don't like the prequel trilogy. And the originals had very flashy SFX for their time.
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I can't wait for the new movie! I've been watching the animated shows lately so this has me more hyped. 

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I don't mind the Prequel that whole much, but I do watch it in the Machete Order; 4, 5, 2, 3, 6 - with Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith acting as flashbacks before Return of the Jedi. As for The Force Awakens? It looks promising. Let's hope JJ did some good.
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Episodes 2 & 3 had serious pacing problems, overuse of pointless action scenes that don't move story forward at all interlaced by scenes where people are standing around or walking in straight line and looking into the void where the CGI alien should be. Practically whole Episode 2 had like 3 plot critical scenes that were so exposition heavy that they could be on Star Wars textscroll and it would be better. And this atrocity was enabled by CGI. That's the problem - how is CGI used and how it influences the rest of the movie.
The trailer for Episode 7 shows plenty of completelly digital scenes - all dogfights, most of money shots of destroyed ISD etc. Yet you have even scenes that are grounded, look gritty, real and human. I adore the orbiting shot where Finn bumps into the pilot on the rebel base, you instantly have a scope of what's happening, where you are, little bit of the character. Just awesome. I just hope the movie will feel as good as the trailer does.
The trailer for Episode 7 shows plenty of completelly digital scenes - all dogfights, most of money shots of destroyed ISD etc. Yet you have even scenes that are grounded, look gritty, real and human. I adore the orbiting shot where Finn bumps into the pilot on the rebel base, you instantly have a scope of what's happening, where you are, little bit of the character. Just awesome. I just hope the movie will feel as good as the trailer does.
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Star Trek and Into Darkness were generic action movies with generic action characters that have recognizable names transplanted on. My only concern is that the same will happen here.
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I have that same worry in the back of my mind, though it's not as intense as it was when I heard he was doing Star Trek. JJ Abrams apparently loves Star Wars, and I think he'll do a better job doing that than he did on his previous gig. Disney is harder to impress.
Though I've never enjoyed anything he's ever done, so... we'll have to see.
Though I've never enjoyed anything he's ever done, so... we'll have to see.
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Star Trek into the Darkness was shameless bunch of referencess to other, better movies woithout an ounce of originality. On the other hand it was fast paced action ride (which is much more ok for a Star Wars movie than for Star Trek movie) and previews Abrams Trek was a genuinelly good movie. So, I won't judge.
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The original Star Wars trilogy for me will always be Dark Forces, X-Wing, TIE Fighter.
About overuse of CGI in the prequel: the problem isn't so much that there's a lot of CGI, the problem is that there's not enough of everything else. We get wooden acting (partly because of CGI, since instead of being in a set the actor is in front of a blue screen and has no clear idea where the other characters and objects he's supposed to interact with are exactly), annoying aliens, swiss cheese plot. When it's pure CGI (like the massive space battle in the beginning of Ep. III) it's pretty cool though. Lucas should have made Gratuitous Space Battles: The Movie -- no plot, no actors, no dialog, no characters, just a bunch of starships zooming around and exploding everywhere.
About overuse of CGI in the prequel: the problem isn't so much that there's a lot of CGI, the problem is that there's not enough of everything else. We get wooden acting (partly because of CGI, since instead of being in a set the actor is in front of a blue screen and has no clear idea where the other characters and objects he's supposed to interact with are exactly), annoying aliens, swiss cheese plot. When it's pure CGI (like the massive space battle in the beginning of Ep. III) it's pretty cool though. Lucas should have made Gratuitous Space Battles: The Movie -- no plot, no actors, no dialog, no characters, just a bunch of starships zooming around and exploding everywhere.
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Hi, buddy! I may have a plot, but ignore it and see only for my beauty CGIGez wrote:Gratuitous Space Battles: The Movie -- no plot, no actors, no dialog, no characters, just a bunch of starships zooming around and exploding everywhere