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Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:39 am
by DaMan
At Groupees. The other games don't look bad either. There's 9 cards between 2 games worth ~6¢ so you can get ~35¢ back in gaben $.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:01 am
by Dancso
Veteran edition? Dynamic lights? How is this possible... Strife's sourcecode was claimed to be lost. But then, they can't exactly use sourceports for commercial purposes unless they made their own reverse engineering of the game.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:09 am
by Gez
Dancso wrote:Strife's sourcecode was claimed to be lost.

Still is. There was some hope that one person still had it in a box, but apparently this was a red herring.
Dancso wrote:But then, they can't exactly use sourceports for commercial purposes unless they made their own reverse engineering of the game.
Guess what happened...

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Strife:_Veteran_Edition

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:36 am
by phantombeta
But then, they can't exactly use sourceports for commercial purposes
I believe most Id Tech 1/Doom Engine source ports can be used for commercial purposes, due to the fact that they have to be licensed under the GPL. (Since Doom's sourcecode was released under the GPL.) (Including ZDoom, if you remove the non-GPL code, I believe.)

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:59 am
by Dancso
That's pretty awesome, I didn't know chocolate strife even existed.
I'm quite foggy about the GPL license. It was my understanding so far that you have to include your source code. What's to stop someone from re-distributing your game with minor modifications?
(I hope I'm not derailing the thread too much with legal stuff)

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:18 am
by phantombeta
The source code.
The assets (maps, graphics, sounds, etc...) aren't included in that. So, no, they can't do that.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:45 am
by Gez
Dancso wrote:What's to stop someone from re-distributing your game with minor modifications?
Nothing prevents anyone from distributing the SVE engine to people who haven't bought SVE.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:41 am
by XCVG
In fact, the Strife Veteran Edition source code is available on GitHub. I don't think anyone has done anything with it yet though.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:56 pm
by Gez
There are two forks with some work on it. One is Strive, the other is about porting it to use SDL2.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:46 pm
by scalliano
Tenner says in the future there'll be a source port based on VE that runs all the IWADs ...

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:06 pm
by Trooper 077
Who owns the rights to Strife?

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:26 pm
by Gez
NightDive.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:05 am
by Blzut3
Gez wrote:NightDive.
I'm pretty sure I heard them say that the rights are now back with Rogue Entertainment. Could be wrong though.

Re: Strife for $1

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:25 am
by Gez
Whatever the legal concoction, NightDive has the rights to publish Strife on Steam (and wherever else, if it ever happens).