ZDoom

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The goal of this mini-mod is to bring more balance to this mod, based on the feedback of others and personal reflections; this frees up the author to
continue to make a great mod, while providing alternate gameplay to those who feel that it should be different. This mod is largely to address the feeling
of the mod being over-powered, which can stifle enjoyment due to lack of challenge. This mod will accomplish this in 3 ways:

1.) Rebalance weapons so that they scale somewhat linearly.
2.) Ensure there's never so much ammo that you can just continue to use one type of gun all the time.
3.) Reinforce players resolve to use every weapon based on a specific threat level, and to play smart.

IF you like to stick to your favorite weapon, have little challenge, or maybe you just want to blow shit away without having to juggle weapons around to much or break a sweat, DON'T PLAY THIS.
IF you like to manage ammo, switch weapons frequently, be forced to aim and strategize monster encounters, and overall have more challenge, while still having panic mode weapons and options that will save you when things get tough,
PLAY THIS.

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Weapons:
-Slight nerf to machete (+noextremedeath, 30d3 > 40d3, 90d3 > 120d3)
-Significant buff to sidekick damage (7>10), slight nerf to ammo capacity (12>16) +noextremedeath, no longer uses ammo
-Slight damage buff to Cradle&Grave, but it uses ammo now. (7>10) +noextremedeath
-Slight speed nerf to Fleshrends, removed push back recoil (A_recoil). (6 extra ticks to reload... fires 1.1 per second instead of 1.5 times a second. this is only, however, when your health is above 75, which then is slightly lessened as well.) +noextremedeath
-Slight speed nerf to LMG speed to make ammo conservation easier, and mag size is reduced to 45 from 70. ( 1 extra tick.... just a little slower than the uzi) +noextremedeath
-Significant nerf to chrome justice secondary (27 bullets instead of 30 for secondary. each shell = 8 bullets, so its still more than fair.) +noextremedeath
-Repositioning of chrome justice primary so you can hug walls better, still tweaking with it.
-Slight Nerf to Patriarch speed (so its more controllable), and 4 less ammo per clip.
-Slight Buff to Bitchmaker, recoil is significantly reduced. (A_Recoil (3) > A_Recoil (8) )
-Skullthrottle fire now uses 3 ammo instead of 1 ammo (fires 3 bullets each tick, so just uses normal amount). with a full 1200 ammo you can sustain a full 22 seconds of fire before you run out of ammo, so its still pretty hefty, but you'll have to use your other weapons more often.
- Reduced smoke released on firing skullthrottle so you can see better
- big buff to Nutcracker on the push back recoil (A_Recoil (10 > A_Recoil (20) )

Ammo:
- Bullet limit lessened (300/600 > 400/800), Backpack gives more ammo (100 > 75), Uzis give more ammo (15 > 0)
- Shotgun ammo boxes nerfed (20>30)
- Grenades for Patriarch changed (40/80 > 60/120), Patriarch clips give less (8 >10)
- Skullthrottle small ammo box gives more (60> 40), big box gives more (200 > 160). this is to partially make up for the pretty big ammo nerf, and balances out pretty well.
- Character attributes on inventory have been changed accordingly.

TODO:
Feedback, tweaking

Endless123 wrote:As you said balance is a the key but it also depends on the wad played. If you play the regular Doom 2 maps it's really easy but it's not that easy if you play Plutonia maps or Hadephobia maps. Being an average player what spoil my fun even more than an easy mod is a mod so hard it's impossible to beat(like the infamous Terry's mods). However i'm always trill to try new Doom mods so i'll give it a try

EDIT : You might want to change the file format because it's not working. Don't forget ZDoom works better with .pk3 and .wad files

magmus wrote:

Endless123 wrote:As you said balance is a the key but it also depends on the wad played. If you play the regular Doom 2 maps it's really easy but it's not that easy if you play Plutonia maps or Hadephobia maps. Being an average player what spoil my fun even more than an easy mod is a mod so hard it's impossible to beat(like the infamous Terry's mods). However i'm always trill to try new Doom mods so i'll give it a try

EDIT : You might want to change the file format because it's not working. Don't forget ZDoom works better with .pk3 and .wad files

I get your point, but I just finished Plutonia (original) with Trailblazer, on the second highest difficulty. I barely used any other weapon except the the Chrome Justice and Sidekicks, they are too versatile and powerful. I barely used the minigun but when I did, it was to beat cyberdemons or masterminds, of which got mowed down in a couple of seconds. I didn't really use anything else, the problem IMO resides in the sheer amount of ammo capacity for the shotguns, each shotgun shell box gave a lot of ammo, even though the Chrome used 3 shells per shot, the ammo obtained from a box made up for it, especially since it is plentiful in Plutonia.

I'm not completely disagreeing with you, but this balance mod is needed to give it more of a challenge. Other than that I love Trailblazer and I think this balance mod is great.

Endless123 wrote:As you said balance is a the key but it also depends on the wad played. If you play the regular Doom 2 maps it's really easy but it's not that easy if you play Plutonia maps or Hadephobia maps. Being an average player what spoil my fun even more than an easy mod is a mod so hard it's impossible to beat(like the infamous Terry's mods). However i'm always trill to try new Doom mods so i'll give it a try

EDIT : You might want to change the file format because it's not working. Don't forget ZDoom works better with .pk3 and .wad files

Just tried this, and it works perfectly. please make sure when you drag and drop that trailblazer is first, or get a doom launcher and put the main mod first.

also, how's everyone liking it? anyone else things it needs more nerfs? i'm pretty satisfied with it now, but it still feels like theres something that could be done.

Zhs2 wrote:Nice ticking the join box for a multiplayer game there, chum! I think your error is completely unrelated to this balance mod. Besides, pk3s are zip archives in disguise - most commonly Deflate-packed

Valherran wrote:Can you please make this into a .PK3 or a .WAD? I cannot run it in its current format.

Ho and be sure NO options are selected, i made that mistake earlier and that was the reason why it wasn't working properly