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Warhammer 40k Mod Ideas Stolen???

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:15 am
by Wasted Youth
http://www.wadsinprogress.info/index.ph ... ds&wad=458
I recieved an IM from a friend saying, "hey bro, I think we got jacked" and a link to this and I see a project containing everything that was going to be in the Warhammer 40,000 project I was working on. My friend also said, "not to mention Im thinking they jacked BOTH of our codes, your exp script and my location script." Now I'm not saying this is true BUT I find it very odd that all of this is what I was doing... I mean come on, EVERYTHING in the description is what I had all planed out last month... I am very upset over this... Anybody have any comments on this? (If the Creator of this Mod is reading this Please respond)

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:28 am
by GeeDougg
The creator (or perhaps the alleged thief) is Jallamann.... I know him from DoomRepublic.com; if what you're saying is true then I'm surprised. BTW he's a member of these forums as well. You can try contacting him about it that way. Wait and see if he responds to this post (or this exact same post that you made as a comment to the project on WIP)....

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:29 am
by Chris
[off topic note]I love the sky in those pics.. almost like what I'd imagine it'd look like with stacked sectors. doubt the clouds are scrolling, though[/off topic note]

I believe I've seen the creator of that hanging around here lately. It has his name on that page, so search for him.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:34 am
by Wasted Youth
Posted a bit of my plan here http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=67166#67166
But I had a More in depth disscusion over MSN late october early november and have Message logs to prove it with 2 other people. I am very suspicius considering that everything in the discription in WIP is what was planned for the Warhammer Mod.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:37 am
by GeeDougg
Let me make it easier for ya': He's Norwegian. He can be found here and on DoomRepublic (and perhaps other places), he joined these forums May 24th of this year. Here's Jallamann's Profile.
His MSN is ivar_den_barske@hotmail.com, His supposed WebSite is Here. He's a news poster at DoomRepublic, and if you go to DoomRepublic.com or Doom3.co.uk you'll see a recent news post by him as well. I can give you more details about the guy if you request. But, again, I must say I'd be surprised if Jallamann actually did that....

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:54 am
by Wasted Youth
I never did say he did but I am suspecting... How would you feel if you came out will a great plan and then somebody comes out will the excact thing.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:08 am
by GeeDougg
I know you didn't accuse him outright, but like you said you're suspecting him (obviously and understandably).

If it happened to me? I'd feel angry and upset and suspicious of everyone and etc. etc..... I totally understand what you might feel as a result of what seems to have happened, which is why I offered to help and provided information about Jalla (as we call him).

I hate it when people do stupid things like this (I'm not saying Jalla did it, yet) and ruin great effort and work put out by others. Not to mention that theft is a huge deal. I wanna get to the bottom of this almost as much as you. Believe me, even if you want me to contact Jalla about it and ask him I will.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:58 am
by jallamann
I'm sorry if you feel angry, but the plan was to base my script on yours. If you want me to remove it, please say so, and I'll make it from scratch. I totally forgot to ask you. Sorry.
Btw: I've been thinking and working on this kind of mod for around a year and a half now. Please, don't feel like you've been ripped off.

Also, geedougg, please don't post my info on a public board. If they'd want this kind of info, they could just look at my profile.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:00 am
by Your Name Is
Stolen or not, it is for this reason that I decided not to release my WAD's weapons and monsters and stuff to the public. I fear for it, so I hope my 4 beta-testers keep it secret.

Well, I hope you figure it all out and that both are pwnz0r! I love the WH40K miniatures game and Dawn of War, why shouldn't I love this mod?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:05 am
by jallamann
Stolen or not. That depends on the person. Myself, I believe in the GPL idea, but I respect intellectual property. If they want me to wipe it out from my hard drive, I will.
Also, when I saw your thread, I never saw anything concerning a score system or the total absence of normal items. Ah well.

Well, let's just hope it's going to be as kickass that I'm hoping it will be.. :)

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:58 am
by Wasted Youth
Well lets just discuss this over a Messeger and I see that you have MSN so I will contact you through that method.

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:18 am
by jallamann
Sure thing

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:54 am
by GeeDougg
Jalla: Naa I wasn't going to post any non-obvious information on forums. But if he wanted more information to be able to find you or contact you more easily I'd give him that information. I hope you're not upset by the stuff I wrote about you. It's fairly "public" as it is anyway.

Re: Warhammer 40k Mod Ideas Stolen???

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:02 am
by Linguica
They stole ideas from a mod based on an existing intellectual property? Wowowowow

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:15 am
by jallamann
Ling: Actually, not 'they', rather 'I'

gee: yeah, but you don't have to register to see the info you posted...

btw: i've more or less abandoned the wh40k thing... only wh40k things left are the titlepic and the end credits pics...