ZDoom

Well i love the idea of new monsters in doom so thats why i wanna contribute but i think i need to know how to do it and what programs to use anyone have any good tuts or programs thx.

A good program to create new monsters would be XWE.
http://www.doomworld.com/xwe/

You need to know DECORATE as well in order to make your own monster.
http://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE

Huzza for you assasin knowing me i need to find a tut some where now lol

DaNoobMechine wrote:Huzza for you assasin knowing me i need to find a tut some where now lol

Well, if you're going to use DECORATE, you are going to need at least SOME coding experience.

demonoftorment wrote:Well, if you're going to use DECORATE, you are going to need at least SOME coding experience.

Not true, though don't expect to make a monster other than a Baron of Hell that flies, has 500000 hp, and reflects thing infront. Or a giant Mancubus that is used as a sheild.

Yes, those were my first DECORATE things ever.

demonoftorment wrote:Well, if you're going to use DECORATE, you are going to need at least SOME coding experience.

Hahahaha...[/zdoomwars]

ZDoom Wars is my first EVER use of Decorate. Srsly. You just need to read the wiki and ask questions.


This is my version of coding experience:

*Looks at wiki*
*Gets shotgun code from wiki*
*Changes junk*
"Fail, lolwut?"
*Asks question*
*???*
*Profit!*

First weapon I ever made was an auto shotgun that used the mage hands - technically - 10 minutes later it had turned into a spell that shot projectiles that summoned zombiemen, which was my initial goal anyway. I had no coding experience, I just READ.

DaNoobMechine wrote:Huzza for you assasin knowing me i need to find a tut some where now lol

Decorate is easy to learn. Just find some examples of simple monsters (like, all the original doom ones) and you'll be ready to start your stuff. That's how I learned back in the day when my internet access was very limited, so I had no wiki to check. Just with a couple mods I downloaded i started to learn about it. Trial-error.

Yeah it seems pritty hard to me lol.. anyone got any useful tuts? i know about the wiki and all but still

The best way to learn Decorate and ACS is just relay between XWE/SlumpEd/DeepSea and the wiki every time you're doing something you don't know how to do. Copying lumps of code and editing them is also useful, as is finding the examples at the bottom of the page on the wiki articles and seeing what they do.

DaNoobMechine wrote:Yeah it seems pritty hard to me lol.. anyone got any useful tuts? i know about the wiki and all but still

You could download monster wads and observe their behavior in the game. After that, you can check the DECORATE code and see how the author did it. That's how I learned DECORATE (plus the wiki).

I should say, the real easy editor is Slade 3, it can open many things and all!

Plus XWE sometimes corrupts files. SLADE3 is probably the better choice in this scenario.

Plus, you bumped a topic from 2008 when SLADE wasn't a "Resource" editor back then and XWE was pretty the only reliable thing. The only competition that XWE was facing back then was SLumpED (but I could be off by a few years).

i wonder if "DaNoobMechine" ever created a monster....

A good idea would be to dowload a wad with a custom monster (Realm667 has tons of it) and play with that monster's code.

People uses to say that it is easier to learn DECORATE editing weapons, but IMO it is much more "intuitive" to edit monsters instead, and thus easier to understand and learn.

XutaWoo wrote:(...) a Baron of Hell that flies, has 500000 hp, and reflects thing infront. Or a giant Mancubus that is used as a sheild.

Yes, those were my first DECORATE things ever.

lol, mine was a zombieman out of ammo.