HeXetic: Rise of D'Sparil

[InsanityBringer]

Actually, loading my ultima cannon into Hexen and then doing "bind 8 slot 8" allowed me to select the weapon fine.

[skib]

Why are we now talking about HeXen?

[wildweasel]

Why are we now talking about HeXen?

Because I, in a sudden lapse of judgment, assumed this project was for Hexen, and not Heretic.

[skib]

Fair enough

[skib]

Testing the game, I found that monsters are weak compared to the weapons, if you get your hands on the wraithverge and a tome, d'sparil dies in seconds.

[SoulCrow]

You could use the edit button next time, rather than double-post.

[Pelle123]

I haven't really focused on balancing the weapons yet in the latest downloadable version, though I have done some changes: for example the powered-up wraithverge doesn't shoot tons of those little spirits anymore. Instead it shoots few small spirits and one bigger spirit that is atm made from the reaver (but does still act like a spirit)

I had also done some upgrades on the Quietus but they are now lost forever with the newest version because of the crash of my hard drive.

I know balancing the weapons is an important thing but I want to get something done on the maps too so I am not going to focus so much on the weapons for now.


@skib:

I think your ideas should work pretty well on this project. I haven't really concentrated on the keyconfig yet so I guess the one you suggested is better indeed.

About the saphire wand... It could be also true that it shouldn't use mana. When I added it in the mod, I thought it could be [censored word] to have a ranged weapon that uses no mana - It could be used to easily kill monsters at distance. I will decide later about what to do with it but I will keep the mana usage for now. Also the saphire wand will propably be found in later episodes of the game since Corvus haven't found it yet.

[skib]

I know balancing the weapons is an important thing but I want to get something done on the maps too so I am not going to focus so much on the weapons for now.

I can make the boss battle for ep 1!
And I looked at your serpentstaff coding

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Actor SerpentStaff : CWeapStaff 10186 
{ 
Weapon.AmmoType "bluemana" 
Weapon.sisterweapon "SerpentstaffPowered"
Weapon.AmmoUse 2
} 

How did you make it work with no states added? How does it inherit from something not in the game?

Also, what will the boss be? D'Sparil first or last?
I thought Heresiarch should be final boss.

I made a Quietus with 2 manas but it kinda stuffed things up.

[wildweasel]

How did you make it work with no states added? How does it inherit from something not in the game?

CWeapStaff is the internal Hexen name of the Serpent Staff, and can be inherited regardless of which game is being run. All that needs to be supplied is the graphics and sounds.

[Pelle123]

I can make the boss battle for ep 1!

Two problems in this one:
1) I kind of want to do everything myself.. (sorry) (Well maybe not EVERYTHING but most stuff)
2) I haven't even finished with decorate and other maps so I am not going to make the boss yet

How did you make it work with no states added? How does it inherit from something not in the game?

Look at wildweasel's post

Also, what will the boss be? D'Sparil first or last?
I thought Heresiarch should be final boss.

The first boss will most likely be Heresiarch (1 or more + other monsters like maulotaurs)
after that probably D'Sparil etc.

I made a Quietus with 2 manas but it kinda stuffed things up.

The Quietus uses red mana only like the other 4th weapons from Hexen... If they all used blue/green manas, green and blue manas would have too many weapons using them and .. well.. not sure. I don't want the best weapons to be used too much. (the red mana will be "rare")

[skib]

Fair enough, but, why did you make quietus melee if you want it to be rare but still, D'Sparil is too weak!

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The health has been changed a bit.

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ACTOR Sorcerer2
{
  Game Heretic
  SpawnID 143
  Health 10000
  Radius 16
  Height 70
  Mass 300
  Speed 16
  Painchance 23
  Monster
  +DROPOFF
  +BOSS
  +DONTMORPH
  +FULLVOLACTIVE
  +NORADIUSDMG
  +NOTARGET
  +NOICEDEATH
  +FLOORCLIP
  +BOSSDEATH
  SeeSound "dsparil/sight"
  AttackSound "dsparil/attack"
  PainSound "dsparil/pain"
  ActiveSound "dsparil/active"
  Obituary "$OB_DSPARIL2" // "%o was no match for D'Sparil."
  HitObituary "$OB_DSPARIL2HIT" // "%o was smacked down by D'Sparil."

  action native A_Srcr2Decide();
  action native A_Srcr2Attack();
  action native A_Sor2DthInit();
  action native A_Sor2DthLoop();

  States
  {
  Spawn:
    SOR2 MN 10 A_Look
    Loop
  See:
    SOR2 MNOP 4 A_Chase
    Loop
  Rise:
    SOR2 AB 4
    SOR2 C 4 A_PlaySoundEx("dsparil/rise", "Body")
    SOR2 DEF 4
    SOR2 G 12 A_PlaySoundEx("dsparil/sight", "Body")
    Goto See
  Pain:
    SOR2 Q 3
    SOR2 Q 6 A_Pain
    Goto See
  Missile:
    SOR2 R 9 A_Srcr2Decide
    SOR2 S 9 A_FaceTarget
    SOR2 T 20 A_Srcr2Attack
    Goto See
  Teleport:
    SOR2 LKJIHG 6
    Goto See
  Death:
    SDTH A 8 A_Sor2DthInit
    SDTH B 8
    SDTH C 8 A_PlaySoundEx("dsparil/scream", "Body")
  DeathLoop:
    SDTH DE 7
    SDTH F 7 A_Sor2DthLoop
    SDTH G 6 A_PlaySoundEx("dsparil/explode", "Body")
    SDTH H 6
    SDTH I 18
    SDTH J 6 A_NoBlocking
    SDTH K 6 A_PlaySoundEx("dsparil/bones", "Body")
    SDTH LMN 6
    SDTH O -1 A_BossDeath
    Stop
  }
}

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As Heresiarch ressurected D'Sparil, D'sparil became many times more powerful, even more than Korax.
However, this made the Heresiarch boss less powerful (update later)...

I haven't finished that yet, but I'll update it later... I'll upload the Heresiarch Boss later.

[Amuscaria]

10,000 HP for Dsparil? And people told me the Hellsmith had too much health.

Either way, the maps look pretty good, The floating platforms and tunnels under water are all nice touches.

[printz]

10,000 HP for Dsparil?

Indeed it's odd. D'sparil's power in original Heretic relies on agility, diversion and sound-masking, rather than being damage-spongey. Maybe do this instead: when detecting Wraithverge spirits, make him frantically teleport. It will easily get rid of them, just like how a running player escapes alive.

[Pelle123]

10,000 HP for Dsparil? And people told me the Hellsmith had too much health.

Either way, the maps look pretty good, The floating platforms and tunnels under water are all nice touches.

I actually made these maps VERY long time ago, and now that I have more experience, more free time and the GZDoom plugin for Doom Builder 2 I think I can do much better


@skib: Yes, D'Sparil is weak. I will propably create many new attacks and propably raise his hp a bit too so he won't die too easily. The D'Sparil fight won't be so much like the one in Heretic because there will propably be some sort of teleporters or other shit that gives D'Sparil some reinforcements every now and then so he won't be alone. (He's too easy alone )


Maybe I should update those screenshots a bit at the first post .. hmm.

[EDIT]

Lol I am going to edit the weapon sprites a bit so they support wide screen too... Right now the sprites just end in middle of the screen and it looks stupid..

[neoworm]

...make him frantically teleport.

From my research its not that easy to force DSparil to teleport, since the teleport call is hidden inside a codepointer that randomly choses if he will teleport or not. I tried to force actor to teleport by calling the pointer in a loop which somehow crashed the game suddenly.