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				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:02 pm
				by Lolo_is_cool
				DavidB1000 wrote:
Also, what is with all these monsters who can dodge, or strafe or whatever. It's even more annoying. 

I'm not playing Unreal Tournament against the best online player himself...I'm playing Doom. i'm tired of wasting ammo on something that moves towards the sides more so than anything in existence!
It was annoying in AEOD, and it's annoying here.
 
David, i don't really know where the heck do you find that annoying! That's not our problem if you can't defeat those monsters. that's NOT our problem if you're not good enough to kill them!!
@Impy
good, now the tommygun is more useful  

Quest: should we define our mod for "hardcore" players? i guess yep XP
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:33 pm
				by DavidB1000
				Okay, let's see here. First off, my computer hard locked, as in, it wouldn't respond at all to any keyboard presses, the mouse wouldn't work, etc. While playing Zdoom, with this Mod? 
I'm certain it won't happen again.
David, i don't really know where the heck do you find that annoying! That's not our problem if you can't defeat those monsters. that's NOT our problem if you're not good enough to kill them!!
@Impy
good, now the tommygun is more useful 

Quest: should we define our mod for "hardcore" players? i guess yep XP
Secondly, I hope to <insert your deity of choice here> that you're being silly? Seriously.
NEVER insult beta testers, that's a good way for horrible bugs to be carried over to the finished project, and making you look like a complete ass. Not to mention it makes Imp Hunter look bad by extension.
Now, look, I play on God mode. So, it's not that I can't kill them, it's the fact that "I'm playing DOOM! Not Unreal Tournament, against The Alpha and the Omega."
Thank you, but uber dodging monsters is fail. It doesn't even make sense. Give them a little less randomness at the very least. Monsters are not smart enough to know how to dodge. 
 
 
I hate wasting ammo with any weapon when something walks sideways for the lolz. 

Seriously am I fighting against Turing capable bots? I think not. 
Even if I was to be a Doom Ultimate God like you, lolo_is_cool, it still would be a bit fail to keep these guys in with +3000 points in Dodge in the D&D 4.0 feat/race/class picks.
Come on now, my friend, don't be so insane.
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:44 pm
				by Imp Hunter
				DavidB1000 wrote:I've been meaning to say this, while I like this mod, and it's fun, please nerf the sheer amount of blood, because when it spawns on certain walls, it can stick on it and drop the framerate to zero.  Or close to it.
 

 
I already removed the F.E.A.R. blood decal, it lags a lot
DavidB1000 wrote:My computer can run Crysis. I think Zdoom shouldn't tax it.
LoL, lucky boy, i never played Crysis
DavidB1000 wrote:Also, please tone down the weird grappling hook ability of the red revenant, because if it spots you across a huge pit, it's going to toss you in, Guaranteed. 
People should not be forced to noclip their way out of a map because of this revenant's super weird attack. 

 
Errr, no, that's was totality proposital, but i'll do it more rare, also, is easy dodge of the hook 
 
 
DavidB1000 wrote:Also, what is with all these monsters who can dodge, or strafe or whatever. It's even more annoying. 

I'm not playing Unreal Tournament against the best online player himself...I'm playing Doom. i'm tired of wasting ammo on something that moves towards the sides more so than anything in existence!
It was annoying in AEOD, and it's annoying here.
 
Hey, hey, but don't have so much "dodgy monsters", also
PROTIP: To kill a dodgy monster, use a goddamn Rocket Launcher
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:12 pm
				by DavidB1000
				I do use a "goddamn" rocket launcher. It takes 4 shots to kill it because the first three miss. 

Protip: Splash Damage is fail against fast insane dodging monsters.
Anyhow, the blood effect is still somewhat higher than it should be. Where in the world is that max decal line...
Also, there is no way in hell to dodge that grappling hook from that monster. Plus, it has more range than a rail gun. 

I'm not joking, as soon as it sees you, it fires that at you, and unless you're moving fast, it's going to hit you and pull you towards it at mach 5. 
It's very disorientating. Okay, It hurts...not in the game, but in real life. 

 Literally, it stuns me, and it's very forth wall breaking. Or Immersion breaking, rather.
Hey, hey, but don't have so much "dodgy monsters", also
Also, I have no idea what you're saying here. What's don't have so much dodgy monsters, also mean?
Sorry, I literally can't understand that phrase.
This mod has less than AEoD? Yes, that's true. When this mod isn't hard locking my computer...
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:25 pm
				by Imp Hunter
				DavidB1000 wrote:I do use a "goddamn" rocket launcher. It takes 4 shots to kill it because the first three miss. 

Protip: Splash Damage is fail against fast insane dodging monsters.
 
Ok, but i'll not remove any dodgy monster...
DavidB1000 wrote:Anyhow, the blood effect is still somewhat higher than it should be. Where in the world is that max decal line...
Yeah, isn't that cool? 

 ...wait, it lags the computer too...but i dunno if remove the blood or not, oh screw off 
 
 
DavidB1000 wrote:Also, there is no way in hell to dodge that grappling hook from that monster. Plus, it has more range than a rail gun. 

I'm not joking, as soon as it sees you, it fires that at you, and unless you're moving fast, it's going to hit you and pull you towards it at mach 5. 
 
Ok, i'll slowdown the hook speed and do the BoxerRevenant (That's the name of the red revenant) more rare on the spawner
DavidB1000 wrote:Hey, hey, but don't have so much "dodgy monsters", also
Also, I have no idea what you're saying here. What's don't have so much dodgy monsters, also mean?
Sorry, I literally can't understand that phrase.
This mod has less than AEoD? Yes, that's true. When this mod isn't hard locking my computer...
 
Sorry if my bad english have some errors, i was trying to say at my mod dont have so much monsters what stafe or dodge...less than AEoD, so, don't worry with then
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:05 pm
				by Unholypimpin
				the strafing monsters are very annoying          also plz change the quit messages to something less vulgar because im sure alot of people will be like wtf?
it really makes the mod too bad if u add alot of cussing  just so u know =]
other then that i dont see much problems with this mod
			 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:15 am
				by Lolo_is_cool
				Impy, we should make a seeker rocket launcher.
If we don't...... you know what  
 
@David
First of all, you shouldn't call me an ass, if you don't want to be reported
Second, we will make a goddam seeker rocket launcher and a goddam portable timefreeze, you're becoming annoying for me, really  
 
 
Third, that monster, my monster, was made in 2 hours so, i didn't accurate a lot of things, and tha't's not my personal monster, just a try to test it on G.O.H
Fourth...... i don't want to say what i really think of you, since you can't kill "dodgy" monsters, and since i'm a civil person....  
 
 
@AlwaysDoomed
Personally, i never seen a "dodgy" monster that is so fast to dodge a rocket (as david said).
If you call them "strafing monsters" maybe it's because they're too fast.
i can make a seeker rocket launcher and some goody that slows time if it's so hard.... Personally is not hard for me  

 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:44 am
				by Imp Hunter
				Lolo_is_cool wrote:Impy, we should make a seeker rocket launcher.
If we don't...... you know what  

 
Will be the alt-fire of the D3Rocket
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:58 am
				by SoulCrow
				Surely if you are fighting strafing monsters then the best weapons to use are hitscan weapons, because hitscan attacks are instant? That would be my advice to David if you are encountering difficulties with strafing monsters, a rapid-fire hitscan weapon would probably be your best bet.
Now, lolo, your reaction to David was a bit harsh. The purpose of beta testing is to listen to issues that beta testers find - beta testing isn't only about finding bugs, issues can also be brought up about the gameplay (such as strafing monsters). Even though David is only one person (used to be, but now AlwaysDoomed has brought up the same issue) and ultimately it is your decision (and the other creators of the project) to change the strafing monsters or not, you can't just slap David out of the way and start insulting him.
			 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:06 am
				by Lolo_is_cool
				Imp Hunter wrote:Lolo_is_cool wrote:Impy, we should make a seeker rocket launcher.
If we don't...... you know what  

 
Will be the alt-fire of the D3Rocket
 
No wait! i just made another RL  
 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c154mdgmw3d
 
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c154mdgmw3d
BoldEnglishman wrote:Now, lolo, your reaction to David was a bit harsh. The purpose of beta testing is to listen to issues that beta testers find - beta testing isn't only about finding bugs, issues can also be brought up about the gameplay (such as strafing monsters). Even though David is only one person (used to be, but now AlwaysDoomed has brought up the same issue) and ultimately it is your decision (and the other creators of the project) to change the strafing monsters or not, you can't just slap David out of the way and start insulting him.
Insulting him? wait a second, he called me an ass and you say that i insulted him??
I just said him that he's annoying for me, i didn't say that he's an idiot or something...
If Strafing monsters are too difficult for them, well, we will change the speed, but, seriously, saying me that i insulted him just because i said it's annoying for me it's a bit exagerated....
 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:25 am
				by Imp Hunter
				Lolo_is_cool wrote:Imp Hunter wrote:Lolo_is_cool wrote:Impy, we should make a seeker rocket launcher.
If we don't...... you know what  

 
Will be the alt-fire of the D3Rocket
 
No wait! i just made another RL  
 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c154mdgmw3d
 
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c154mdgmw3d 
I'll just implement the Rocket, because the sprites of the weapons is almost the same at the HeavyRocketLauncher
Also, i already have RocketLaucnhers enought 

 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:59 am
				by Lolo_is_cool
				@impy
Okay, no problem dude =)
I made the weapon to test the seeker (that works actually good)
btw, if you want to replace a RL that you don't like it, just use the one i made  

 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:54 am
				by TypeSaucy
				so any weapons your taking from that mod i uploaded, impy? and i just notice the post thiny, those hands came from Postal 2. these weaps are based on a mod for Postal 2, ED, or Eternal Damnation, and this is called EDD (which is called "Eternal Damnation : Doomed").
			 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:18 am
				by Lolo_is_cool
				X-CrAzYkOoL-X wrote:so any weapons your taking from that mod i uploaded, impy? and i just notice the post thiny, those hands came from Postal 2. these weaps are based on a mod for Postal 2, ED, or Eternal Damnation, and this is called EDD (which is called "Eternal Damnation : Doomed").
really? i thought the hands were from condemned, since most of the weapons come from that game too and the shirt is also black 

 
			
					
				Re: Gears of Hell (Searching for Beta Testers)
				Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:01 am
				by Imp Hunter
				Lolo_is_cool wrote:@impy
Okay, no problem dude =)
I made the weapon to test the seeker (that works actually good)
btw, if you want to replace a RL that you don't like it, just use the one i made  

 
No, no, i just added the rocket as a altfire on the D3RL
X-CrAzYkOoL-X wrote:so any weapons your taking from that mod i uploaded, impy? and i just notice the post thiny, those hands came from Postal 2. these weaps are based on a mod for Postal 2, ED, or Eternal Damnation, and this is called EDD (which is called "Eternal Damnation : Doomed").
I played and...i dunno, most part of the weapons will don't make sense if 1 put on the wad...