This model is so ugly i'm sorry but...It just doesn't match doom :/..
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:03 am
by Mtzfire
Can you guys please stop posting that Imp? Thank You
-Also, I don't need that at all for a guide, I know EXACTLY how Id Software views the Imp, I already showed their art for Doom2RPG, which shows the Imp in the center, and he looks really kickass, so I don't need any models, not those that aren't made be IdSoftware, which are the only 'correct' ones
EDIT: WOw talk about a whole page almost on that model Hey, I like it, but it's just not what I'm gonna use. Because it looks too much like an alien... ?? The Doom monsters are supposed to look like aliens... but that model really does look like it's from the sixties,lol, it's better to make the model short and chubby, like the sprite, and it's best to not cover him up in wrinkles... not giant ones.
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EDIT2: It'd be nice if you guys placed the images as spoilers, they're just taking up space.
EDIT3: ANYWAYS... Here's a little something I thought was nice:
The hi-res sprites I'm making seem to go nice with hi-res texture styled graphics, so I probably won't have to shrink the hi-res texture pack textures. The sprites may not be perfect with the textures, but they look nice, and match at least decently.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:17 am
by Reinchard2
Nice effect. One thing that I don't like is the eyebrows. Maybe you can do something with this to make it look more "predatory", less like monkey. Do not get me wrong, I think you do good job with caco and imp.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:48 am
by Blox
A slight hint cartoonish-ness looks alright on those sprites, but an intense cartoonish touch to them just makes things look a bit strange.
Oh, by the way. I've got another demon sprite 'ready';
Spoiler:
Just showin' my progress. (Expect me to fix that clipped 'toenail?' though)
About 9 sprites left before a full walking animation is there. That's without counting the older sprites.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:59 am
by CaptainToenail
Sorry I can't cite my source, but I remember reading somewhere official (could have been Romero's site I can't remember) that the imp was envisioned to be a yeti-like creature, covered in brown fur with metal spikes. Personally I would ditch the 'hairy aspect' but it is interesting.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:13 pm
by Blox
Making something hairy seems a bit hardcore without some way of fading stuff, which may be possible with a tablet. (Mousing your way through would take ages)
Not to mention that it would take a lot of time to make it look good, which again makes it kinda tedious.
So yeah, I think it's a good idea to ditch the whole hairy stuff. As it would take a lot of time to do, and it would probably look a bit silly too. (It's hairy.. AND IT THROWS BALLS OF FIRE!)
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:00 pm
by TheDoomGuy
Wow, looking good, Mtzfire. Please promise me you won't abandon this. Haha.
Also, I have a suggestion that I feel might work for this project... use the hi-res Wolfenstein 3-D sprites from the Mac version as a replacement for the SS Nazi.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:10 pm
by NeuralStunner
TheDoomGuy wrote:use the hi-res Wolfenstein 3-D sprites from the Mac version as a replacement for the SS Nazi.
Considering the Mac sprites have no walking rotations, that wouldn't work too well.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:55 pm
by Mtzfire
TheDoomGuy wrote:Wow, looking good, Mtzfire. Please promise me you won't abandon this. Haha.
Also, I have a suggestion that I feel might work for this project... use the hi-res Wolfenstein 3-D sprites from the Mac version as a replacement for the SS Nazi.
Thanks there! Oh and: I wont abandon this project! Never, as far as I'm concerned, DOOM deserves some nice graphics, I love the game and love the monsters so... yeah, there's also the fact that it would be horrible to let such a great project die.
-ALSO: I'm using the sprites I make to make a rail-shooter, similar to Doom2RPG and Doom Resurrection combined! SO: No leaving theses sprites!
@Reinchard: The Imp doesn't look anything like a monkey, lol, I think he looks like an alien, and that's good... I can't change him because he HAS big eyebrows... thanks for your concern, though
NeuralStunner wrote:
TheDoomGuy wrote:use the hi-res Wolfenstein 3-D sprites from the Mac version as a replacement for the SS Nazi.
Considering the Mac sprites have no walking rotations, that wouldn't work too well.
I can, however, use them as a reference, to know what they look like
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EDIT: Updated the 1st post, got rid of the old stuff. Also I've stated we are 2 back-to-back projects, and I'm glad to see Blox's new Demon sprite
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:36 pm
by Sodaholic
About the ss monsters, you could look at it this way, there's basically the front angle already done for you! (well, perhaps it would need modification, since this is 32 bit 4x, not 8 bit 2x, but it would work nicely as a base)
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:24 am
by JustinC
How does he look like he is from the 60's?
and
"...DOOM deserves some nice graphics..." it does have nice graphics.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:13 pm
by Mtzfire
I meant that the model looks like a costume, and someone already stated that, I'm just agreeing, because I see it the same way I did, however, state that I like that model myself, it's just it needs a few fixes, and luckily a model is fixed easier than an image.
JustinC wrote: it does have nice graphics.
Only in look, that is, 'style.' When I say graphics, I mean clarity, detail, and resolution. EVERY time I use the word graphics, I am talking about these 3 things, which are in every modern game (to a great extent, at least).
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:59 am
by Blox
Oh hey, just coming here to say that the 'new' front angle is shaping up rather nicely.
Spoiler:
Though I don't like the [censored word] eyes, which is why I edited it a bit in Photoshop.
Spoiler:
And oh, fortunate me; It can be stamped on when I'm finished, as I put it in a separate layer.
Can't say how long it took to make that.. I guess it's somewhere around 80 minutes in total.
Re: [WIP]4xHi-res Sprites... and 4xHD?
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:16 pm
by Salad Viking
Is the imp's mouth really going to be open that much? Whenever I look at that sprite, it's the only thing I can see...