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Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:26 pm
by Clownman
xenoxols wrote:This is great honestly, but could you add a bit of recoil to the weapons? Everything else about them is awesome.
Personally, I wouldn't like that too much considering I sometimes play doom mouseless with the arrow keys to move my aim. And I hate when recoil just tends to screw up my camera, forcing me to reset it just to get a good shot.

But other than that: The Shotgun single-fire is a bit wonky, I swear with the altfire I can kill those crawling plants with no effort but when using single shots I swear it takes more hits than usual. And I was hitting it when it was "vulnerable", mind you.

Anyways: I'm really liking this thing so far, I actually like it better than the first one. :D

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:47 pm
by SamVision
No recoil please, aside from the sprite offsets and animation. The last thing I want is for me to be pushed back off a platform by my own shotgun.
iSpook wrote:Personal gripe: Can you rework the weapons so the weapon draws only on the current magazine and not both it AND it's total stockpile of ammo?
No way! The way it is right now is perfect, I wish more games did this.
Batandy wrote:Anyway for the plants the easy way to take them down is with a shotgun hit after taunting them by getting in their melee range. Do not use the assault rifle with those, it's not worth it
I think there needs to be a better melee weapon for the player. The current fist just sucks.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:55 pm
by Clownman
Sledgehammer, perhaps? ...It sounds like it would be fun.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:58 pm
by SamVision
I was thinking more like the punch-punch-kick combo from Super Mario 64.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:27 pm
by Batandy
I guess i could buff it a bit, we'll see about that ;P

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:47 pm
by SamVision
I have this graphic here you could use for the cursor, made from the Mario Paint cursor colored like the Doom gloves.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:04 pm
by xenoxols
Guys, I mean the type of recoil that is visual only; it moves your view up and back to the position you were before you fired by the time you stop firing. Zero gameplay changes.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:05 pm
by Batandy
xenoxols wrote:Guys, I mean the type of recoil that is visual only; it moves your view up and back to the position you were before you fired by the time you stop firing. Zero gameplay changes.
I thought about that but i decided not to implement it because it would be way harder to shoot in mid air while dodging projectiles

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:23 pm
by xenoxols
Batandy wrote:
xenoxols wrote:Guys, I mean the type of recoil that is visual only; it moves your view up and back to the position you were before you fired by the time you stop firing. Zero gameplay changes.
I thought about that but i decided not to implement it because it would be way harder to shoot in mid air while dodging projectiles
How does that make anything harder, unless done do a ridiculous degree?

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:07 pm
by Clownman
SamVision wrote:I have this graphic here you could use for the cursor, made from the Mario Paint cursor colored like the Doom gloves.
I added some OMFF to it
I added some OMFF to it
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Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:20 pm
by SamVision
That's even better.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:36 pm
by Scuba Steve
What the fuck is with everyone's obsession with recoil? Holy shit people, stop using it, it's annoying as hell. Batandy was right to not include it.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:41 pm
by xenoxols
It makes it more fun. It's simple, do I want my gun to feel like a water pistol or what it actually is?

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:09 pm
by Clownman
xenoxols wrote:It makes it more fun. It's simple, do I want my gun to feel like a water pistol or what it actually is?
It's just downright annoying having to readjust my aim every time. Plus this is a PLATFORMER with instant death pits. It's bound to screw someone over.

Re: DooM : The Golden Souls 2 [Beta 0.1 Out!]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:46 pm
by SamVision
Scuba Steve wrote:What the fuck is with everyone's obsession with recoil? Holy shit people, stop using it, it's annoying as hell. Batandy was right to not include it.
Scuba Steve's words of sheer wisdom.