Let's improve barons. [some things for your autoload]

[Arctangent]

They pretty much just serve as -40 cells or -8 rockets, provided you manage to land all of them, though. They're pretty pointless other than ammo subtraction unless they catch you from behind, which usually requires you to ignore them due to their ground-based nature and slow speed.

[MaxED]

I proudly present you... Baron of Fun! Guess what he does

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He throws barrels at you, because... PUNS!

[Jimmy]

Fucking excellent.

[Infirnex]

Isn't it 6 rockets? I always count 6 rockets when I kill a baron.

[Mav3rick]

to me only 5 rockets, weird if they eat more than that.

and another way to improve them maybe adding new moves, like a stomp to make the player unable to move, or a close melee dash or even a normal green attack that split into 3 for OMGSHOCKINGSHIT!

[NeuralStunner]

The rocket's direct-hit damage is 1d8*20 - Assuming the Baron takes the full splash damage (128) it's going to take a minimum of 7 rockets. (1000 / 148 = 6.75675) Generally less, since the RNG doesn't roll that low consistently. Anything over 7 means you're not getting direct hits.

I think it would be impressive if these guys could grab you up and toss you across the room.

[Arctangent]

They'd have to reach you, first, unless you gave them telekinesis.

[Amuscaria]

The rocket's direct-hit damage is 1d8*20 - Assuming the Baron takes the full splash damage (128) it's going to take a minimum of 7 rockets. (1000 / 148 = 6.75675) Generally less, since the RNG doesn't roll that low consistently. Anything over 7 means you're not getting direct hits.

I think it would be impressive if these guys could grab you up and toss you across the room.

IIRC, I don't think its possible for something to take full damage from a rocket, unless somehow the rocket exploded inside the actor. I think splash damage is calculated as damage/radius. A rocket has 128 damage/128 radius, so its 1 damage per unit distance moving towards the center?

With a radius of 11, unless the rocket no-clips into the actor's radius, 11 damage is automatically reduced from the max splash damage, making it 117 at most. Also, damage thrust pushes the actor away when the rocket initially hits, and since A_Explode isn't called until the second frame of the death animation, more damage is potentially taken off (for things with lower mass).

Without the explosion, the rocket does, on average, 90 ((1d8*20)/8) damage + the ~117 splash. So I'm guessing the max average damage is ~207 damage. I don't think Zdoom has perfect random numbers, but It should be ~200 damage on average.

From experience it takes 5 rockets to kill a Baron, with the occasional 6 rockets. I generally balance rocket ammo assuming it does 200 average damage, like the SSG.

[Gez]

The mobj's radius is subtracted from the distance between mobj and rocket when calculating the damage caused by the blast, so yes it's perfectly possible to take full damage from a rocket.

[Amuscaria]

The mobj's radius is subtracted from the distance between mobj and rocket when calculating the damage caused by the blast, so yes it's perfectly possible to take full damage from a rocket.

I did not know this.

[BFG]

I think the reason they have so much health is because they were originally intended just as the Bruiser Brothers boss fight, but then they decided to put them in more levels, but leaving their 'boss-like' stats intact. I know one thing is for certain, encountering one of these guys, or multiple in a survival situation can be more terrifying than even a Cyber.

[Slax]