"(File)Size Matters" 64K Compo (Judging not underway)

[AD_79]

You may very well be correct. I'll have to look into that later.

[Nash]

Here's another test on a smaller (but still procedurally-generated) UDMF WAD. Zipped and 7z'ed both at "Ultra" compression settings. Of particular note is that compressing the WAD into .7z is much, MUCH faster than .zip and also yields a smaller file... conclusion, 7z is the superior compression format here. And UDMF compresses the best.

[robot master L.S]

Well here is the mods:
v1:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hbs5a ... nemies.wad
v2:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/22pbp ... miesV2.wad
v3
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aeajo ... miesV3.wad

Iwads: Ultimate Doom,Doom2,Tnt and Plutonia
Works with any Map pack (without new monsters).
Any (G)Zdoom, Works in Zandronum too!
v1 File size: 14 kb
v2 File size: 15 kb
v3 File size: 14 kb
Description:
The monsters will wander around in map before you see it!
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Changes:
-Removed the sndinfo. (R.I.P fat)
-Bug fix: Archvile had only one sprite (A) after kill the player.

[kodi]

And UDMF compresses the best.

Great to know!

Of particular note is that compressing the WAD into .7z is much, MUCH faster than .zip and also yields a smaller file... conclusion, 7z is the superior compression format here.

I've been using 7z almost exclusively for about a decade

Procedural generation

Perhaps we'll see the zdoom equivalent of this in late april , heh

[daimon]

interesting, MAYBE i will come out with something...

[_mental_]

Procedural generation

Perhaps we'll see the zdoom equivalent of this in late april , heh

A little bit off-topic but it's not fair to compare (G)ZDoom with demo scene tools. Demo authors tune both code and data/assets. Although the idea of this contest is to do something clever by changing only the second.
By the way, there is at least one BSD licensed library (and so, usable with ZDoom) to deal with procedural textures. Don't know though how demanded this feature would be in the community.

[Nash]

By the way, there is at least one BSD licensed library (and so, usable with ZDoom) to deal with procedural textures. Don't know though how demanded this feature would be in the community.

Are there any real-world practical examples of this library being used in any game?

[_mental_]

Are there any real-world practical examples of this library being used in any game?

I don't think so, it was used in bunch of 64K demos. AFAIK some proprietary procedural texture generation was used in RoboBlitz.
The download size is no longer an issue, constraints of marketing platforms are now mostly liberal.

[patrik]

Well here is the mod:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hbs5a ... nemies.wad
Iwads: Ultimate Doom,Doom2,Tnt and Plutonia
Works with any Map pack (without new monsters).
Any (G)Zdoom, Works in Zandronum too!
File size: 14 kb
Description:
The monsters will wander around in map before you see it!

Nice idea and quite fresh way to play original IWADs (especially with enabled fast monsters ). But while you are at it, why also not add +NOBLOCKMONST flag to all actors, so they are not limited by monster blocking lines anymore for even more unpredictable results?

And I know this is out of aim of this mod, being limited only to 64 kb, but it would be nice to have some footsteps sounds with it for more suspenseful experience, maybe in form of addon?
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Ahem, sorry folks for OT, anyway I am very interested what you will manage to accomplish within such limit. Good luck everybody.

[wildweasel]

I wouldn't be so sure, patrik, you could probably fit decent footstep noises in a few KB with careful compression and quality management.

[robot master L.S]

Hey patrik!
This is an edited version of the mod ( i did footsteps before and "monster active sounds" too,but i think in some maps have much noise), the NOBLOCKMONSTER flag is nice idea, i will add this, and the active sounds too (with less chance in this time).

[The Zombie Killer]

Hmm, this could be a fun exercise.
The question is what I should do.

[ibm5155]

64K competition reminds me of 64K demoscene, they're so badass :S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaK0-V9_7Hw
Also, I beat it should be an IWAD and not PWAD, that way you can only use resources from your own wad
EDIT: I'm in

[darkhaven3]

Currently it is 11KB, I am trying to make as "complete" an experience with new map(s?), graphics, music, sounds, etc. as I can until I hit the 64KB limit

[Kizoky]

Interesting
I'll try to make a totally new game (mod) for ZDoom, but I guess it will be hard