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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:07 am
by Curunir
What the fuck, people. I don't really like useless posts, but I hate forums where EVERYONE HAS TO BE ONTOPIC ALL THE TIME OR ELSE.

A bit of idle banter can't hurt. Of course posts like "LOL U SUKK" or "YEAH, COOL" are better avoided, I don't see why we need some nazi moderator who will chase far more people out of here than just a tiny bit of spam.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:07 am
by Spike
Ixnatifual wrote:Oh my god isn't blackfish the dude who flames people in the newstuff?
Probably.
Curunir wrote:What the fuck, people. I don't really like useless posts, but I hate forums where EVERYONE HAS TO BE ONTOPIC ALL THE TIME OR ELSE....(etc)
Moderating does not equal the end of le banterfulness; nor does the presence of a moderator equal a dictatorship. It simply puts a block on pointless flames and illegal postings (see the Doom III Alpha saga).

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:42 am
by Nmn
Bloodshedder wrote:I hate you.
Seconded.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:04 am
by Lexus Alyus
Why are Zdoom non-regulares voting for yes? We regualars know what we want and we dont need any outsider coming in and demanding moderators!

:evil:

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:08 am
by Nmn
Lexus Alyus wrote:Why are Zdoom non-regulares voting for yes?
:evil:
Now that's a fucking good question.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:54 am
by Spike
Lexus Alyus wrote:Why are Zdoom non-regulares voting for yes? We regualars know what we want and we dont need any outsider coming in and demanding moderators!

:evil:
'Demanding' is an inappropriate word. 'Suggesting' is the string of letters you're looking for, and that suggestion is coming from people who enjoy moderated forums and understand the benefits of such.

Moo.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:01 am
by NiGHTMARE
There's a reason there isn't a single anarchist country in the entire world, and that reason is because anarchy just does not work. Like communism it's a good idea in theory, but unfortunately in practice it turns out it's completely incompatible with human nature.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:10 am
by Nmn
Look on the other side-
we've been here without moderators for a long long time and we're a great community. Right now, several people who post really rarely jumped in to "express" their opinion about moderators, that they, are desparately needed. I don't know about Your reasons tough, since You post rarely, You have little idea perhaps that this community functions well without moderators. The reason I'm saying this is that I believe You want us to have moderators without knowing that we do well without them.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:32 am
by ducon
Why is "no" called "spam"? Why isn't "yes" called "censorship"?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:59 am
by Nmn
Because this whole poll is a stupid joke.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:10 am
by NiGHTMARE
IMHO a good solution would be to give the original topic creator complete control over their own thread. Of course this wouldn't prevent threads which are idiotic from the start from being made, but we can far more easily ignore these than we can spam in a formerly decent thread that's gone downhill. Also, if someone moderates their threads too much for your liking, simply don't read their threads.

Another answer would be to let individual users ignore certain other users, so the spamming n00b can post as much crap as he want but no-one will actually be able read anything he writes.

Unfortunately, I doubt the forum software would support either of these.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:16 am
by Nmn
That is what I mean-ignorance.
You see, a ruling force wouldn't be needed if we would be it-what I mean is that instead of joining the spamming, flaming, trolling or other stuff like that we-normal people, members of the community-focus on our discussions and such, plus, try in a very light way to calm down a n00b, convincing them to join normal ones (which is hard tough). Unfortunately, many times an idiot can appear and ruin a great discussion, but as far as I look back Randy takes care of such cases (Quake2ownYou, Ultimate_Doomster, Warez n00bs) but we are troubled by spammage.
I believe that if we could delete any post in our threads-thus having control over it ,like NiGHTMARE said, we could prevent them from being spammed or flamed and keep up the discussion. That's a great idea IMO.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:28 am
by Mannequin
Why doesn't someone else start a poll with "YES" being "Communism" and "NO" being "Freedom-of-speech?"

:lol:

I agree with the post I made in another thread:
Me, Myself, and I wrote: Besides that, some people need to actually exercise some responsibility for a change here. These are unmoderated forums, and like a free society, when people stop acting responsibly, chaos is close behind...
Which means we better start reducing the out-cry for censorship by reducing the amount of pointless flaming. (Not pointless banter -- who cares about that? :) )

By the way, I'm abstaining from voting on a pointless poll. ;)

-M.

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:31 am
by Curunir
This forum always worked pretty well. Randy always coped with extreme cases, as it had been pointed out. We don't need anyone's ego boosted here. And we don't need anyone but Randy to exercise control.

Also, what the fuck, who's dragging all those people who vote yes?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:32 am
by Mannequin
Curunir wrote:Also, what the fuck, who's dragging all those people who vote yes?
Who cares? Read my lips, "Pointless Poll."

-M.