DUMP Episode 3: BFG Edition [map + weapons released]

[Mor'Ladim]

No, no, I meant those 'User1-4' states on weapons. (Edit: The ones you can use in conjunction with added keybinds for them) At least, I believe they weren't available until only recently as I recall.

[InsanityBringer]

... people still use state offsets like that?

I don't know of any other way! Probably doesn't help that I am using a 2.8 ZDoom build. That's only because using anything newer will cause my personal use mod to randomly crash on occasion. Therefore, I am missing out on a lot of useful features (Especially "User States") and am left in the dark on more efficient ways to handle things.

as mentioned by ijon, custom state labels have been available for a long fucking time now. They have no relation to those User States, which are indeed a recent addition (but have nothing to do with this). You can replace your jumps with offsets and your goto state+x calls with a custom state label and a jump or goto to that. example:

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    Fire:
    HEHG A 0 A_Jump(1, "Backfire")
    HEHG A 3 
    HEHG B 0 A_GunFlash
    HEHG B 3 A_FireCustomMissile("hehshot")
    HEHG B 0 A_Refire
    Goto Cooldown
    Backfire:
    HEHG C 5 //explode or something
    Goto Cooldown
    Cooldown:
    HEHG DEFG 3
    Goto Ready

See? Isn't that much nicer than

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    Fire:
    HEHG A 0 A_Jump(1, 5)
    HEHG A 3 
    HEHG B 0 A_GunFlash
    HEHG B 3 A_FireCustomMissile("hehshot")
    HEHG B 0 A_Refire
    Goto Fire+6
    //backfire
    HEHG C 5 //explode or something
    //cooldown
    HEHG DEFG 3
    Goto Ready

[Gez]

Heck you don't need that second "goto cooldown".

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    Backfire:
    HEHG C 5 //explode or something
    Goto Cooldown
    Cooldown:

could as well just be:

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    Backfire:
    HEHG C 5 //explode or something
    Cooldown:

[Shadow Hog]

Honestly, I just kinda wanna see the hub map with the portals to all the maps placed inside it, instead of the non-functional placeholders the current test build has.

[leodoom85]

I don't know if this update will make it in time but here I go. This is my final update for my map.

Changes:

- One of the rooms with multiples switches has been removed, however the area before that room has been remade and teleport pads were added. The twist on it is that you have to pick up the hidden blue skull key to enter this area.

- Added some arrows to "indicate" the switches where the hidden key can be used and some other arrows with very subtle lighting change to indicate some secrets.

- Added two teleport pads, one for the teleport pad before picking up the red keycard (this one can be used by reaching the third bridge), and the other is for going back to the teleport pads area.

- The plasma gun and the berserk pack has been relocated due to the deleted sector.

- Added some cosmetic things here and there.

And that's all. The download link is the same but here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8o9s28pnoaema ... e.zip?dl=0.
Have fun.

[Snarboo]

Alright, back from vacation, and just toyed around with the latest build of the DUMP3 Weapon set. Is the GOH-12's tractor beam supposed to be missing? I thought I included it. :X

[charcola]

*crickets*

[Yholl]

Alright, back from vacation, and just toyed around with the latest build of the DUMP3 Weapon set. Is the GOH-12's tractor beam supposed to be missing? I thought I included it. :X

Wait, latest build? There's only one build, test0.

Unless you managed to get the indev test1 build through that stupid link that updated itself.
In any case, yes, the latest update I had from you had no graphics whatsoever for the tractor beam, I assumed it was intended.

*crickets*

Yup, preeeeeetty much.
Whatever. Term told me to wait and release the weapons test build alongside the map test build, but the map build is basically in the Immaterium for all I know.

DUMP3 Weapons Test-1

I was halfway through adding custom ammo checks to all the weapons when I lost motivation halfway through, so a lot of weapons now will probably be able to be fired without ammo.
All weapons have AMMO_OPTIONAL now, so that they can be selected and dropped if they have no ammo, but obviously a lot of guns just used standard Doom ammo control, so the ones I didn't get to updating will have infinite ammo, basically.

Go nuts, have fun. Enjoy our audio shitposting on the menu system.

[Deviluke Roy]

The only weapons I noticed fired at zero ammo were the dual cannons replacement for the rocket launcher. It was pretty fun, using the pistol mostly, and basically wondering what type of shit I might get next. For fucks sake, the chainsaw has a hammer running on the power of love for it's attacks, and yholl made...something. IDK what it does to enemies, but it fires some shit and then it exploded. Lesson learned, Don't pick up the chainsaw.

But I need to say something with Zandronum 3.0...

Why, for fucks sake, does MM8BDM have a problem with freelooking in Zand 3.0, but my Doom 2 WAD has no problem?

Ah well, the world makes no sense anyway. Like why I felt the need to post this shit here instead of the What I did last thread, or the very own MM8BDM thread.

World: 0, Roy, -1.

[Beed28]

Some issues I found in the new version:

- I cannot discard the Neutral Stunner and Dual Cannons. I can discard everything else, however.
EDIT: I think I discovered the cause; both of those weapons are missing the WRF_ALLOWZOOM flag from their A_WeaponReady functions.

- When discarding the Laundry Fu, I retain the ability to high jump when using the other weapons.

- The Frostfire Tome's altfire doesn't respect sv_infiniteammo nor the infinite ammo powerup.

- Typing IDKFA or IDFA still gives the vanilla fist.

- In DUMP.acs, I believe changing the TakeInventory functions to take 9999 may stop problems with sv_unlimited_pickup interfering with the synthfire system:

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if (buttons & attack)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3SynthFire", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3SynthFire", 9999);
        
        if (buttons & altAttack)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3SynthAltFire", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3SynthAltFire", 9999);
			
        if (buttons & BT_CROUCH)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3Crouching", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3Crouching", 9999);
			
        if (buttons & BT_MOVELEFT)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3StrafeLeft", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3StrafeLeft", 9999);
			
        if (buttons & BT_MOVERIGHT)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3StrafeRight", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3StrafeRight", 9999);
			
        if (buttons & BT_FORWARD)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3Forwards", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3Forwards", 9999);
			
        if (buttons & BT_BACK)
            GiveInventory("DUMP3Backwards", 1);
        else
            TakeInventory("DUMP3Backwards", 9999);

And this:

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script "DUMP_DEATH" DEATH
{
    TakeInventory("DUMP3SynthFire", 9999);
    TakeInventory("DUMP3SynthAltFire", 9999);
    TakeInventory("DUMP3Crouching", 9999);
    TakeInventory("DUMP3StrafeLeft", 9999);
    TakeInventory("DUMP3StrafeRight", 9999);
    TakeInventory("DUMP3Forwards", 9999);
    TakeInventory("DUMP3Backwards", 9999);
}

[comet1337]

a couple of bugs
tyrant has some MAJOR offset issues. also some invisible frames
chaingunshotgun can't use the tertiary fire unless 'switch synthfire' is on
it also inverts the AMR's; shoot with alt, scope with primary

also nice to see that Ijon got serious for once
well, twice
plasmatracker projectiles look so cool

also: did term pick the name for the hellhammer?

[Beed28]

By the way; Yholl, could you please amend this to my Pet Lost Soul weapon's DropGunPickup state:

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DropGunPickup:
		"####" "#" 0 A_TakeInventory("DUMP3PetLostSoulEquipped", 9999)
	    "####" "#" 0 A_TakeInventory("DUMP3ChainsawSlotFilled",1)
	    "####" "#" 0 A_TakeInventory("DUMP3PetLostSoul",1)
	    "####" "#" 0 A_Jump(256, "Deselect")
	    Goto Deselect

Currently, after discarding it once, it doesn't "teleport in" if you happen to pick it up again, so it just appears abruptly. With the code amended as above, it should allow it to properly do its teleport in animation if you happen to pick it up again after discarding him.

[Mor'Ladim]

tyrant has some MAJOR offset issues. also some invisible frames

I was wondering what you meant, as I just tried it out in Zandronum, the version of ZDoom that I use, and then an updated version of ZDoom I have in another folder and saw no problems. Then I downloaded the most recent build of ZDoom and NOW I see what you mean. I'll have to see if I can do something about that, and hopefully I will know where to start.

[ijon]

yo yholl you forgot to use the updated hs011 with the ACS that hopefully desyncs less and also doesn't need commonfuncs to compile
(only the ACS changed)
(i ain't ever gonna test this shit on zdoom multiplayer so i'll just assume it worked)

also nice to see that Ijon got serious for once
well, twice

i basically stole two guns from EYE, so even then

[Yholl]

- I cannot discard the Neutral Stunner and Dual Cannons. I can discard everything else, however.

fug

When discarding the Laundry Fu, I retain the ability to high jump when using the other weapons.

fuuug

The Frostfire Tome's altfire doesn't respect sv_infiniteammo nor the infinite ammo powerup.

fuug

Typing IDKFA or IDFA still gives the vanilla fist.

fuuuuug

In DUMP.acs, I believe changing the TakeInventory functions to take 9999 may stop problems with sv_unlimited_pickup interfering with the synthfire system:

I'm gonna be perfectly honest here.
I'm rapidly losing interest in maintaining compatibility with such an obnoxious and destructive cvar.

chaingunshotgun can't use the tertiary fire unless 'switch synthfire' is on

blatantly untrue

it also inverts the AMR's; shoot with alt, scope with primary

fug

also: did term pick the name for the hellhammer?

ye
I yelled at him to come up with a cool name. Amusingly enough the same name I'd used in an old wad of mine for the SSG, heh.

By the way; Yholl, could you please amend this to my Pet Lost Soul weapon's DropGunPickup state:

fug
ye, I'll get on that

I was wondering what you meant, as I just tried it out in Zandronum, the version of ZDoom that I use, and then an updated version of ZDoom I have in another folder and saw no problems. Then I downloaded the most recent build of ZDoom and NOW I see what you mean. I'll have to see if I can do something about that, and hopefully I will know where to start.

Honestly, I would not bother trying to "fix" your gun if it's only broken in a super recent devbuild.
It's very likely your gun is not broken in any way.
If it's fine in stable ZDoom/GZDoom, and it's fine in Zan 3.0, then it's fine.

yo yholl you forgot to use the updated hs011 with the ACS that hopefully desyncs less and also doesn't need commonfuncs to compile

fuuuuuug
yeah, I was meant to do that after I got the ammo stuff sorted out and then I escaped into the warp.
My bad.