[WIP] The Shores of Zdoom

Ultimate Freedoomer · Post by **Ultimate Freedoomer** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:16 pm

Is it possible that this episode will see reinterpretations of the console levels from Episode 2 (Hell Gate & Hell's Keep) as part of its enhancements?

wildweasel · Post by **wildweasel** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:32 pm

Notice to people who plan on reporting this post: it is staying here because it is a legitimate question. Whether the project leads intend on actually answering it is up to them.

Post by **Hellser** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:35 pm

wildweasel wrote:Notice to people who plan on reporting this post: it is staying here because it is a legitimate question. Whether the project leads intend on actually answering it is up to them.

But muh TSoZD experiunce D:

Also, having just played PSX Doom's The Ultimate Doom segment.. I wouldn't mind seeing Hell's Gate and Hell's Keep.

SamVision · Post by **SamVision** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:40 pm

Both Hell Gate and Hell Keep on console dooms are such simple maps with basic architecture that I probably will not miss them. Threshold of Pain though was a fun map.

MetroidJunkie · Post by **MetroidJunkie** » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:45 pm

I recognize those maps, they were also in the GBA version. I can see maybe incorporating parts of them for existing levels but definitely not for full on levels, they felt more like cheap replacements than anything else.

Ultimate Freedoomer · Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:10 pm

SamVision wrote:Both Hell Gate and Hell Keep on console dooms are such simple maps with basic architecture that I probably will not miss them. Threshold of Pain though was a fun map.

MetroidJunkie wrote:I recognize those maps, they were also in the GBA version. I can see maybe incorporating parts of them for existing levels but definitely not for full on levels, they felt more like cheap replacements than anything else.

Hence why the key word is "reinterpretation". I mean, you weren't the only 1 here disappointed by the fact that Hell Gate (which would be E2M8 if they include it) was not only unimpressive & small, but, bloody Tartarus, it lacked the CELESTIA-FORSAKEN MATA NUI-DAMN GATE IMPLIED IN THE HIGH HOLY FLYING FEATHERING TITLE. Here, it's just a matter of remaking it in a way that does the name, the gimmick, & the game justice while keeping it recognizable. As far as Hell's keep (Which would be E2M9 if included. This would make Tower of Babel E2M10 & Fortress of Mystery E2M11), I'd recommend looking to the Lost Episode: Evil Unleashed Pwad's reinterpretation of that level, E5M2: Ominous Lair & working from there.

SamVision · Post by **SamVision** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:50 am

Considering how small Hell Gate was, you could easily implement it into a normal map.

Tormentor667 · Post by **Tormentor667** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:22 am

Interestingly I have still access to the development forums here at ZDoom.org but I have the feeling (last post from July 2013) that this is pretty much dead...

Post by **NiGHTMARE** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:26 am

Tormentor667 wrote:Interestingly I have still access to the development forums here at ZDoom.org but I have the feeling (last post from July 2013) that this is pretty much dead...

They switched to an external message board, which was when I lost touch with them because I was never able to gain access.

LCAL799 · Post by **LCAL799** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:36 am

This is dead? or still WIP?

Post by **Hege Cactus** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:59 pm

I'm kinda intrested myself aswell to know if this is dead or if this is still moving cause I could possibly give a hand at the mapping incase there's still need for mappers.
But I dont want to waste anyones time if its at halt

Post by **Vader** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:30 pm

Hi,
as I said in a more or less recent thread in 'general', the project definitely isn't dead, but kind of sleeping currently.
Not sure when it will get more attention again, but I hope to get around doing some more work for it in the near future!

Ultimate Freedoomer wrote:Is it possible that this episode will see reinterpretations of the console levels from Episode 2 (Hell Gate & Hell's Keep) as part of its enhancements?

Nope, remaking the PC version maps is already more than enough work

Tormentor667 wrote:Interestingly I have still access to the development forums here at ZDoom.org but I have the feeling (last post from July 2013) that this is pretty much dead...

As Nightmare said; we moved to another forum!

They switched to an external message board, which was when I lost touch with them because I was never able to gain access.

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that but did wonder about your lack of presence there

How are you not able to access and did you talk to esselfortium about that?

Aaaand, just to give you guys something to look at:

Spoiler:

WIP obviously

Ozymandias81 · Post by **Ozymandias81** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:43 pm

OH YES! VADER IS BACK! Those ceilings looks really nodeamazing.

ledillman · Post by **ledillman** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:04 pm

Nice WIP! can't wait to see that area complete

Gothic · Post by **Gothic** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:21 pm

I'm kind of curious about the music, since the 3DO port of Doom didn't have all the original songs, are you guys going to make the missing songs, or this time the music will be different?

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