A Doomers Requiem

[Forlorn Creator]

Hello,

I posted this project a while back on Doomworld, and made the mistake of not giving proper introductory display.
I won't make that mistake twice.


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ADR contains short sections in the story of a certain mans life, told in a highly esoteric, metaphorical / symbolical, and unconventional way. Keep this in mind as you play; and give an attempt to understand things rather than signing it off as ubiquitous drivel, and you may be able walk away with something special.

It is fairly short, and should only take about 30 minutes to complete.

I have spent roughly 3 years making this, and you will see things that you have never seen in any other doom mods in this project. No, I am not boasting about my talents, and I know you will understand once you play through this. Please leave a critique in the following link if you feel led to do so.
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Here is the link:

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A couple of screen shots:





Enjoy

Here is a link to a review made by Zorah on Doom Station, It's got a lot of nice screenies:

http://www.doomwadstation.net/2014/adr/

[demo_the_man]

looks good, I hope this turns out to be good

[Ctrl+Alt+Destroy]

If this doesn't win a cacoward, let me tell you - I don't know what will. Nicely done.

[raymoohawk]

dontt have time to play it now, but those screenies look really good

[Forlorn Creator]

If this doesn't win a cacoward, let me tell you - I don't know what will. Nicely done.

That means a lot that you would say that, I give it to God.

And thank you for your kindness.

[xenoxols]

I really like this, despite my personal opinions.

[Forlorn Creator]

I really like this, despite my personal opinions.

I know you and other will disagree, but I am at least glad that you found it to be enjoyable.

[TheMightyHeracross]

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So at the end I got a text screen that concluded with:
"Consider. Ask. And Receive.
Not out of fear, nor with blindness, but with a sincere heart and a reasonable mind.

Consider Jesus Christ."

So was this supposed to be a mission or something?

My thoughts? Well, I don't get it. The whole thing was confusing. Why is he here? Why is he seeing this? I think I have an idea of that second one (see spoiler), but I don't understand how that would relate to the 3 events.
As for gameplay:

• First map was OK, reminded me of the first level of TurboCharged Arcade 2, with the climbing to the top thing.
• Second map was tough, but I managed to make it in one go.
• The third really was a challenge, as it said, but in a good way. I managed.

Detailing is great. I noticed that immediately. Overall, it's an OK mod, but I don't really get it. It was indeed short, but I was only left confused.

[Forlorn Creator]

TheMightyHeracross,

"So was this supposed to be a mission or something?"

Not quite.

Think of it like poetry; reflect on what the meaning of the monsters, color choices, textures, architecture, etc, represent. Lots of symbolism.

[Josh771]

This was enjoyable and very well made. The symbolism, both of numbers and biblical metaphors, was not lost on me, but the design is certainly surreal enough to be confusing by itself.

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I could get into a bigger discussion of some of the symbolism and how some of the portrayal felt, like the final battle against the flesh. It seemed almost as though I was supposedly conquering the flesh by my own effort, since the battle is given to the player -- yet I suppose the player was meant to embody spirit, or perhaps the Holy Spirit Himself. Given that the mod is fraught with symbolism, one must be careful, I suppose, in trying to interpret too much of it against scriptural doctrine. All in all, the themes here are very familiar to a Christian, but I wonder if perhaps the metaphors are only more mysterious and poignant to one that may be seeing them for the first time and without context?

Oh, and I saw a few grammatical things that kinda bothered me. Just me being nit-picky, but I'd offer to clean up the text content for you if you'd like. Mostly a few simple misspellings, stuff like that.

[Forlorn Creator]

SidDoyle,

I appreciate the fact that you understand more of the symbolism behind this project.

Read the spoiler below if you like:

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As for the final battle -- yes it is given to the player, and only with the weapons that he receives from God is he able conquer the flesh. The sword obviously represents the Sword of the spirit, and Gods wrath is just that; the scorn of death upon the flesh. These weapons characterize and represent the idea that without God, we would not win.

[idGamer]

Quite an intriguing mod; I enjoyed it thoroughly. I really like surreal stuff like this, so this was right up my alley.

The levels are very well designed, and fit the mood nicely. The third level's design is probably my favorite; it just looks so heavenly and majestic.

If there's one thing that pulled me out of the immersion, however, it's the use of music from other video games (Metroid Prime, Silent Hill, etc.) There's nothing wrong with using the music, as the soundtracks you chose fit the scenes quite well; it was just a little distracting to hear songs I know from other games in the otherwise unique experience.

My thoughts on the symbolism of the mod (and a possible explanation of it):

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I suppose the mod is meant to portray a person's conversion to Christianity? If so, then I guess the first level represents the person's heart; since it's cold and empty, it symbolizes how the person is apart from God (further symbolized by the empty throne.

The second level is a little more confusing to me; obviously it represents hell, but the symbolism behind the tree is a little complicated for me (maybe it's supposed to represent one of the trees from the Garden of Eden?)

The third level I suppose represents the last step of the person's conversion, as he must triumph over his sinful desires represented by his 'flesh'. Then, after defeating the flesh, the pillar of fire appearing over the throne in the first level represents the person's putting their faith in God (as I assume the fire represents God himself)

As a Christian myself, I can understand most of the symbolism, and found the mod very enjoyable.

[Unholypimpin]

This was kind of a strange wad, lots of eye piercingly bright colors and then quick transitions to Gothic colors. The camera movement was actually pretty good in some cut scenes.
I left like the majority of the wad was an LSD trip mainly the bright areas looked like you just put random colors everywhere.

I realize this wad is full of christian symbolism and shit, but when playing I felt like you were trying to convert me to Christianity or something. All these god quotes and god help me texts was just a little ehhh..silly idk, it made me feel like you wanted the player to think he was absolutely helpless without god.

But forgetting all of the christian stuff in the wad I thought that the fights were really bland and boring, trying to kill a bunch of flying bishops with a sword was kind of annoying and the boss fight only seems beatable when you melee him with the glowing hands. The cut scenes were actually not bad and the texturing in the darker areas of the wad were actually really cool looking.

Overall the wad wasn't bad and some of the cut scenes were well made, but the fighting needs refinement.

[Forlorn Creator]

Quite an intriguing mod; I enjoyed it thoroughly. I really like surreal stuff like this, so this was right up my alley.

The levels are very well designed, and fit the mood nicely. The third level's design is probably my favorite; it just looks so heavenly and majestic.

If there's one thing that pulled me out of the immersion, however, it's the use of music from other video games (Metroid Prime, Silent Hill, etc.) There's nothing wrong with using the music, as the soundtracks you chose fit the scenes quite well; it was just a little distracting to hear songs I know from other games in the otherwise unique experience.

My thoughts on the symbolism of the mod (and a possible explanation of it):

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I suppose the mod is meant to portray a person's conversion to Christianity? If so, then I guess the first level represents the person's heart; since it's cold and empty, it symbolizes how the person is apart from God (further symbolized by the empty throne.

The second level is a little more confusing to me; obviously it represents hell, but the symbolism behind the tree is a little complicated for me (maybe it's supposed to represent one of the trees from the Garden of Eden?)

The third level I suppose represents the last step of the person's conversion, as he must triumph over his sinful desires represented by his 'flesh'. Then, after defeating the flesh, the pillar of fire appearing over the throne in the first level represents the person's putting their faith in God (as I assume the fire represents God himself)

As a Christian myself, I can understand most of the symbolism, and found the mod very enjoyable.

Very interesting ideas you have!

As for the music well, I was unable to create tracks that were on par with what was required to set the mood in some of the areas of the game. I do however, understand what you mean though by how it could distract from the surreal experience.

Next your ideas:

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You are mostly right in the respect to the first level. The second area; Adversaries Keep however holds some personal meanings that many others would probably not know without getting to know me personally.
The third area deals with the last moments of the Watcher's life. With the help of God he was able to overcome his flesh and rise above it. You know what I mean I am sure.

Good to see that you could understand this!

[Forlorn Creator]

This was kind of a strange wad, lots of eye piercingly bright colors and then quick transitions to Gothic colors. The camera movement was actually pretty good in some cut scenes.
I left like the majority of the wad was an LSD trip mainly the bright areas looked like you just put random colors everywhere.

I realize this wad is full of christian symbolism and shit, but when playing I felt like you were trying to convert me to Christianity or something. All these god quotes and god help me texts was just a little ehhh..silly idk, it made me feel like you wanted the player to think he was absolutely helpless without god.

But forgetting all of the christian stuff in the wad I thought that the fights were really bland and boring, trying to kill a bunch of flying bishops with a sword was kind of annoying and the boss fight only seems beatable when you melee him with the glowing hands. The cut scenes were actually not bad and the texturing in the darker areas of the wad were actually really cool looking.

Overall the wad wasn't bad and some of the cut scenes were well made, but the fighting needs refinement.

Hey man, I understand that not everyone will agree with the message that I put in here but I'm not actively trying to convert you. This wad is just a story, with heavy Judeo/Christian connotations.
Against demons, an SSG just won't do...

The notion that the wad is an LSD trip and full of random colors however, I feel is completely unfounded. Each area has Two main colors, with a few complementary colors all very well organized in accordance with the color wheel to create contrasting and matching colors as needed.

Yes some areas are supposed to be very bright, this too has a specific meaning, but I'm sorry if they strained your eyes, really.

Your criticism over the fights is more reasonable though. While I realize that it was difficult to fight the bishops with just a melee weapon, I helped to negate this affect by putting them in an enclosed area. I don't think this creates an unsavory and bland situation however.

The boss fight is supposed to be difficult, as it represents the final challenge. However, I am sorry; I play a lot of Dark Souls and this is undoubtedly why the boss is so difficult for some. So the boss seemed easy to me, I can beat him with just melee.

Thank you for playing and for giving good feedback! Much appreciated.