[Survey] How many of you CANNOT run GZDoom's OpenGL renderer

Post by **edward850** » Sat May 10, 2014 7:54 am

Graf Zahl wrote:So what CPU do you use anyway?

Wonk! That's important too! An AMD Phenom X3 8750 Black Edition. (2.4GHz).

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 10, 2014 8:00 am

Hm. That speed is a bit surprising. I'm using a Core i7 3770 with 3.4 GHz which really looks 3x as fast from my benchmark data.

This is regular GZDoom without lights:

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Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14600 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 122666 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24549 primitives, 108130 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=6.221, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.850, Clip=3.710
F: Render=0.632, Setup=0.083
S: Render=0.241, Setup=1.097
All=22.487, Render=10.288, Setup=11.387, BSP = 3.646, Portal=0.196, Finish=0.759
DLight - Walls: 0 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
43 fps

Blue Shadow · Post by **Blue Shadow** » Sat May 10, 2014 8:05 am

I can't run the test version, as it crashes on me. I guess my AMD doesn't cut it...

Spoiler: System specs

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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/10/2014, 17:00:05
       Machine name: NC-PC
   Operating System: Windows 8.1 Single Language 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_gdr.140305-1710)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
       System Model: Satellite L850
               BIOS: 6.40
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8144MB RAM
          Page File: 2330MB used, 7094MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode

---------------
Display Devices
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          Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7670M
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6840)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6840&SUBSYS_FB221179&REV_00
     Display Memory: 5871 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2031 MB
      Shared Memory: 3840 MB
       Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: unknown
         Monitor Id: LGD033A
        Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (60.019Hz)
        Output Type: Internal
        Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1230 (English)
     Driver Version: 13.151.0.0
        DDI Version: 11
     Feature Levels: 11.0,10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.3
Graphics Preemption: DMA
 Compute Preemption: DMA
           Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
     Power P-states: Not Supported
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 4/1/2014 06:52:52, 1233616 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
  Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2B00-11CF-0776-28DBBEC2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x1002
          Device ID: 0x6840
          SubSys ID: 0xFB221179
        Revision ID: 0x0000
 Driver Strong Name: oem49.inf:cb0ae4144d763d8f:ati2mtag_R476:13.151.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_6840&subsys_fb221179
     Rank Of Driver: 00DA0001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C 
        DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD  DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT  DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT  DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD  
   Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
       D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

Here is the crash report

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 10, 2014 8:28 am

Do you use the latest driver? AMD supports the two extensions that are missing from your log on newer hardware, but it's only very recent.

Post by **Nash** » Sat May 10, 2014 10:56 am

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// GZDoom 1.8.6 no lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14573 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 122551 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24512 primitives, 107913 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=9.393, Split = 0.000, Setup=3.907, Clip=5.996
F: Render=4.278, Setup=0.135
S: Render=0.354, Setup=1.352
All=36.462, Render=18.271, Setup=16.538, BSP = 5.145, Portal=0.177, Finish=1.598
DLight - Walls: 0 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
27 fps

// GZDoom 1.8.6 lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14573 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 122551 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24512 primitives, 107913 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=10.298, Split = 0.000, Setup=3.895, Clip=6.045
F: Render=6.091, Setup=0.132
S: Render=0.493, Setup=1.361
All=38.848, Render=21.164, Setup=16.624, BSP = 5.189, Portal=0.178, Finish=1.005
DLight - Walls: 2117 processed, 432 rendered - Flats: 7212 processed, 658 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
24 fps

// TestVersion no lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14573 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 197176 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24512 primitives, 107913 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=6.028, Split = 0.000, Setup=3.968, Clip=6.033
F: Render=2.589, Setup=0.124
S: Render=0.242, Setup=1.360
All=38.427, Render=13.027, Setup=16.586, BSP = 5.100, Portal=0.091, Finish=8.756
DLight - Walls: 8 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
25 fps

// TestVersion lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14573 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 197176 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24512 primitives, 107913 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=7.047, Split = 0.000, Setup=3.978, Clip=6.083
F: Render=2.837, Setup=0.124
S: Render=0.421, Setup=1.371
All=37.999, Render=14.491, Setup=16.627, BSP = 5.067, Portal=0.091, Finish=6.829
DLight - Walls: 2143 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 1316 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
25 fps

Specs:

Vista x64
Intel i7 920 @ 2.67 GHz
3 GB DDR3 @ 1066 MHz
nvidia GTX 460

PlayerLin · Post by **PlayerLin** » Sat May 10, 2014 12:03 pm

System Spec :

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//Official 1.8.4
//With Light

Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14243 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 147390 vertices)
Flats: 529 (46213 primitives, 201451 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=7.713, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.962, Clip=3.728
F: Render=3.868, Setup=0.401
S: Render=0.293, Setup=1.024
All=29.144, Render=16.062, Setup=11.828, BSP = 3.711, Portal=0.209, Finish=1.210
DLight - Walls: 2116 processed, 429 rendered - Flats: 7214 processed, 651 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
33 fps

//Without Light
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14243 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 121469 vertices)
Flats: 529 (24237 primitives, 106442 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=6.245, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.823, Clip=3.708
F: Render=0.786, Setup=0.091
S: Render=0.197, Setup=1.122
All=23.415, Render=10.626, Setup=11.551, BSP = 3.804, Portal=0.195, Finish=1.195
DLight - Walls: 0 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
41 fps


//1.9 Pre-662 test build
//With Light

Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14243 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 195912 vertices)
Flats: 529 (24237 primitives, 106442 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=6.153, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.929, Clip=3.920
F: Render=1.973, Setup=0.092
S: Render=0.374, Setup=1.208
All=24.964, Render=11.857, Setup=11.924, BSP = 3.773, Portal=0.094, Finish=1.151
DLight - Walls: 2138 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 659 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
38 fps


// Without Light
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14243 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 195912 vertices)
Flats: 529 (24237 primitives, 106442 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=5.346, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.918, Clip=3.917
F: Render=1.875, Setup=0.091
S: Render=0.202, Setup=1.188
All=24.103, Render=10.704, Setup=11.865, BSP = 3.750, Portal=0.094, Finish=1.501
DLight - Walls: 24 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
40 fps

Also when running on the test build of GZDooM, I found totally missinginvisible wall/floor/ceiling textures, is it normal?

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 10, 2014 12:19 pm

Of course that's not normal. Can you also post your GZDoom startup log?

Blue Shadow · Post by **Blue Shadow** » Sat May 10, 2014 12:46 pm

Graf Zahl wrote:Do you use the latest driver? AMD supports the two extensions that are missing from your log on newer hardware, but it's only very recent.

Hmm... I think I'll pass on this, then. The generic drivers from AMD seems to be incompatible with Toshiba notebooks, according to AMD. And what drivers update Toshiba has for my laptop is from September/October of 2013, it seems. So they're not even new.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 10, 2014 1:03 pm

How I hate such systems. Buying that stuff is like screwing oneself by default.

jpalomo · Post by **jpalomo** » Sat May 10, 2014 1:29 pm

pre-603:

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// No lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14600 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 122666 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24549 primitives, 108130 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=6.202, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.789, Clip=3.616
F: Render=0.630, Setup=0.078
S: Render=0.198, Setup=1.148
All=23.131, Render=10.409, Setup=11.132, BSP = 3.499, Portal=0.142, Finish=1.562
DLight - Walls: 0 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
43 fps

// With lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14600 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 122666 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24549 primitives, 108130 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=7.731, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.818, Clip=3.625
F: Render=2.423, Setup=0.079
S: Render=0.361, Setup=1.193
All=27.323, Render=14.042, Setup=11.364, BSP = 3.648, Portal=0.171, Finish=1.889
DLight - Walls: 2118 processed, 413 rendered - Flats: 7225 processed, 726 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
36 fps

pre-662 (test build):

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// No lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14600 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 197291 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24549 primitives, 108130 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=5.175, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.773, Clip=3.677
F: Render=1.825, Setup=0.088
S: Render=0.167, Setup=1.201
All=25.755, Render=10.483, Setup=11.219, BSP = 3.479, Portal=0.095, Finish=4.007
DLight - Walls: 0 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 0 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
39 fps

// With lights
Map MAP01: "entryway",
x = 4676.2854, y = 5956.6655, z = 369.0000, angle = 90.3790, pitch = -1.3348
Walls: 14600 (0 splits, 2007 t-splits, 197291 vertices)
Flats: 537 (24549 primitives, 108130 vertices)
Sprites: 708, Decals=0, Portals: 1
W: Render=5.926, Split = 0.000, Setup=2.822, Clip=3.661
F: Render=1.982, Setup=0.079
S: Render=0.322, Setup=1.233
All=23.250, Render=11.486, Setup=11.237, BSP = 3.441, Portal=0.090, Finish=0.500
DLight - Walls: 2142 processed, 0 rendered - Flats: 659 processed, 0 rendered
Missing textures: 0 upper, 0 lower, 0.000 ms
41 fps

specs:
Windows 7 64-bit
Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W
Intel i5-4670K @ 3.40GHz
8 GB RAM
nvidia GTX 760

About a 4-5 frame per second difference.

Edit:
Just noticed that it was faster with lights enabled in the test build, but not by much. That doesn't make any sense.

PlayerLin wrote: Also when running on the test build of GZDooM, I found totally missinginvisible wall/floor/ceiling textures, is it normal?

I was able to reproduce this by loading the test build of GZDoom with the Steam overlay enabled.

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 10, 2014 1:35 pm

Ok, I've seen enough NVidia data now to determine that the net result is close to zero. All gains inside the actual rendering code seem to be propagated to the end of the frame, sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on the current mood of the computer.

LOL about the Steam overlay. What does it do to disrupt the supposedly 'permanent' mapping of the vertex buffer...

xenoxols · Post by **xenoxols** » Sat May 10, 2014 1:45 pm

I have a amd radeon 7950 overclocked to 1.15 ghz, and i've never had a problem, not even with mods like particle fire enhancer. Oh, and it runs fine non overclocked too.

Post by **Kappes Buur** » Sat May 10, 2014 1:49 pm

Wouldn't run for me at all.
For some reason no ini file was generated, so I copied the one from 1.8.06

My system specs:

Spoiler:

Post by **Graf Zahl** » Sat May 10, 2014 1:55 pm

Your driver is too old. Your hardware supports GL 4.0 but the driver only reports 3.3.0, which means it won't have the required extensions for the test version.
So, unless your startup log clearly says GL version 4.x, don't bother running it. It will most definitely crash because there are no checks if the features are present or not.

Post by **Kappes Buur** » Sat May 10, 2014 4:56 pm

Graf Zahl wrote:Your driver is too old. .....

Ok, I updated the NVIDIA driver from 311.06 to 335.23.
Now, the test_version plays and the logfile states GL_VERSION: 4.4.0.

However, when I pick up items the whole screen flashes orange, and when I get hit the whole screen flashes blue.
That happens playing just DOOM2 or an add-on like FrozenT.

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