DoomRL Arsenal - [1.1.5] [MP-B7.3]

[Slax]

Shotgun... firestorm...
INCENDIARY!

[Yholl]

Shotgun... firestorm...
INCENDIARY!

Simply changing it's damagetype from Bullet to Fire doesn't seem worth a Firestorm mod. Otherwise, that's simply Demolition Ammo for Shotguns, without even using an assembly to make it, and they already have a Plasma damage version already.

[Slax]

Maybe a limited range fire breath bonus then. Puff o' flames + regular pellets. Something to help keep those pesky demons away.

[VicRattlehead]

I was thinking a higher rate of fire for pistols

Maybe increased knockback for shotguns

Also, the new speed increase to the double shotgun doesn't seem to have carried over to its plasmatic shrapnel variant.

[Triple S]

Maybe a limited range fire breath bonus then. Puff o' flames + regular pellets. Something to help keep those pesky demons away.

Basically this. Again, I reference Brutal Doom's SSG and how it deals extra damage at close-range.

As for pistols... why can't it just increase fire rate? If not, could give them piercing rounds. More firestorm mods, more enemies pierced? Iunno. Wouldn't really work since the name has to imply the effect. Automatics firing faster makes sense, shotguns do more damage up close with a burst of fire makes sense... so what could pistols get? Maybe flare rounds that deal damage over time to struck enemies while also lighting the area?


EDIT: Focused Double + Sniper Mod = FOCUSED Double

[Slax]

You know what I'd like to see? A tactiCRUEL vest! Very basic or no protection + an extra item or weapon slot. I bet your black magic can code a mean auto-drop for whatever weapon you picked up last, Yholl, (complete with a snarky message, of course) for when the vest breaks. Muahahaha!

[-Ghost-]

I'm not sure if I suggested this before, but maybe a few different kinds of backpacks could be added (if that's possible)? Sort of in the same vein as what Slax suggested, maybe one that doubles your ammo cap even more than a regular one, maybe another gives you an extra weapon slot. You could make them extra rare and just sort of straight upgrades you can find or something. Another thing was maybe changing the health potions to work more like Doom RL's, where there aren't many of them but they heal for a lot more HP. That way they'd fit in with the way armor bonuses work and you'd get healed for say, 15 HP instead of just 1. It might mess with balance though.

[Yholl]

I was thinking a higher rate of fire for pistols

Maybe increased knockback for shotguns

Yeah, I'm going with this. Already done the Shotgun, the knockback is quite annoying to implement. Pistols will be far easier. Shotguns will also deal additional damage at close range.

Also, the new speed increase to the double shotgun doesn't seem to have carried over to its plasmatic shrapnel variant.

Yeah, I realised, like, 5 minutes after I uploaded it. I'm always forgetting stupid stuff like that.

EDIT: Focused Double + Sniper Mod = FOCUSED Double

Heh. It's more accurate than the Battle Rifle like that. It's crazy.

You know what I'd like to see? A tactiCRUEL vest! Very basic or no protection + an extra item or weapon slot. I bet your black magic can code a mean auto-drop for whatever weapon you picked up last, Yholl, (complete with a snarky message, of course) for when the vest breaks. Muahahaha!

I'm not sure if I suggested this before, but maybe a few different kinds of backpacks could be added (if that's possible)? Sort of in the same vein as what Slax suggested, maybe one that doubles your ammo cap even more than a regular one, maybe another gives you an extra weapon slot. You could make them extra rare and just sort of straight upgrades you can find or something.

It's possible that I could do such a thing, but I'd need to rewrite a bit of the pickup code for every single weapon in the game, and I'd also need something to balance it. The 6 weapon limit is not just a random number chosen, it's the number that works the best with this gameplay. 5 was way too limiting, 7 is just too easy.

Another thing was maybe changing the health potions to work more like Doom RL's, where there aren't many of them but they heal for a lot more HP. That way they'd fit in with the way armor bonuses work and you'd get healed for say, 15 HP instead of just 1. It might mess with balance though.

Dunno. Reducing their spawn chance makes them more random, so a room that was guaranteed to have 10 health of potions might not even have a single potion now. Or it might contain so many you burst at the seams with healthiness.

As a side note, I appreciate these discussions with you all, it helps me improve the mod in a direction that everyone (Mostly) likes.

[VicRattlehead]

I think having both increased knockback and increased damage at short range would be problematic. Wouldn't the knockback just cause frustration to a player who's trying to get the most damage out of the weapon?

[skyrish10]

For some reason, my main tester (and even sometimes myself) finds that in multiplayer, it beeps at 41 ammo. Which the code doesn't do. At all. Thank you, logical code, for starting me on the road to the asylum.

*DELETED!* *Reason: No, untrue, opinionated and it's not valid by any means, please do not put a invalid reason.*

[Yholl]

I think having both increased knockback and increased damage at short range would be problematic. Wouldn't the knockback just cause frustration to a player who's trying to get the most damage out of the weapon?

The knockback shouldn't be that crazy, but it's a good tradeoff. Just don't expect to get the bonus damage on Cacos much.

For some reason, my main tester (and even sometimes myself) finds that in multiplayer, it beeps at 41 ammo. Which the code doesn't do. At all. Thank you, logical code, for starting me on the road to the asylum.

that's because of coding oversight, you forget to say "in my brain", like doggo120

A coding oversight with ZDoom, you mean?
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I also have no idea who that is and what relevance they have to this.

[Slax]

I think having both increased knockback and increased damage at short range would be problematic. Wouldn't the knockback just cause frustration to a player who's trying to get the most damage out of the weapon?

I'd say it gives you room to reload. Not like every shotgun's gonna get this bonus, right?

[skyrish10]

*deleted* *reason: same as above*

[Yholl]

I'm doing a thing. It may be helpful.



GOD I HATE SBARINFO

EDIT: Additional thing.



Not enough room for weapon stats, unfortunately. But it'd mostly be repeating stuff you already knew.

[Ribo Zurai]

To that, I can only think of this reaction:

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Sweet mother of god. That doesn't only look great, but will also be helpful. I'm never sure of which armor is better.