[1.0.1]The Veteran (New trailer, last hurrah!)

[Mav3rick]

Just helping out like any other

Understood the part of want to make a ramdom game play

ok impresion so far....

The shotgunner and chaingunner still dont drop ammo ¬¬ (and i try map 15 to see how much they drop and nope no drop)

Bug ... when runing while have the "Festivity" if u keep the fire buttom press there is no swing animation

Why the "Festivity" rockects dont BOOM?? and since there is no BOOM no radius of damage ¬¬ it sucks

Will be good if you are able to put a charging sound to the Festivity charge shot to know how much is charged

Thanks for the double barrel shoot ^_^

yet another thing... since the Heavy Hitter shoot 4 bullets... why no put a sprite of a shotgun with 4 holes? maybe will look apropiate

and thanks once more for the ammo capacity

oh btw do you think there will be a posibility to add the power up for the fist be ramdomly drop by demos and only add 15 of healt to the player?

[A.Gamma]

Ok now, here is version 0.5 (Damn that was fast!).

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-Added kick as an altfire for Mindy and Cindy.
-Added kick as an altfire for the BASS SMG.
-Changed the fire mode of the Crowd Mower, it will now fire a short and precise burst.
-Added an altfire to the Crowd Mower, fires completely automatic, lethal on short distances but terribly imprecise.
-Expanded the Crowd Mower ammo capacity.
-Added charging sounds to the Festivity Rocket Launcher.
-The Festivity Rocket Launcher now takes a little more time to charge.
-Expanded the Festivity Rocket launcher ammo capacity.
-Rebalanced random ammo spawners
-Fixed the shotgunner drop rate issue (About friggin' time!)

Download version 0.5!

Just helping out like any other

Understood the part of want to make a ramdom game play

ok impresion so far....

The shotgunner and chaingunner still dont drop ammo ¬¬ (and i try map 15 to see how much they drop and nope no drop)

That should be fixed in this version.

Bug ... when runing while have the "Festivity" if u keep the fire buttom press there is no swing animation

Err... I'm not really sure what's causing this. If someone more experienced in Decorate could help me it will be much appreciated.

Why the "Festivity" rockects dont BOOM?? and since there is no BOOM no radius of damage ¬¬ it sucks

The normal rockets are small, so their radius damage is small.

Will be good if you are able to put a charging sound to the Festivity charge shot to know how much is charged

Added!

Thanks for the double barrel shoot ^_^

No Problem!

yet another thing... since the Heavy Hitter shoot 4 bullets... why no put a sprite of a shotgun with 4 holes? maybe will look apropiate

That will require an angled quad barrel shotgun sprite. If I can get my hands on one I will definitely try to make it work!

and thanks once more for the ammo capacity

Again, no problem.

oh btw do you think there will be a posibility to add the power up for the fist be ramdomly drop by demos and only add 15 of healt to the player?

Hmmm, I will consider it, no promises though.

[Ed the Bat]

Bug ... when runing while have the "Festivity" if u keep the fire buttom press there is no swing animation

Err... I'm not really sure what's causing this. If someone more experienced in Decorate could help me it will be much appreciated.

If you mean when it's out of ammo, that's because holding Fire will bounce it between Reload and Ready states, giving just a 1-tic animation which doesn't call A_WeaponReady, thus no bobbing.
You could fix it with something like this:

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Ready:
	VRKT A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("LauncherClip",1,3)
	VRKT A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("FestivityAmmo",1,2)
	VRKT A 1 A_WeaponReady(WRF_NOFIRE)
	Loop
	VRKT A 1 A_WeaponReady(WRF_ALLOWRELOAD)
	Loop

[A.Gamma]

If you mean when it's out of ammo, that's because holding Fire will bounce it between Reload and Ready states, giving just a 1-tic animation which doesn't call A_WeaponReady, thus no bobbing.
You could fix it with something like this:

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Ready:
	VRKT A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("LauncherClip",1,3)
	VRKT A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("FestivityAmmo",1,2)
	VRKT A 1 A_WeaponReady(WRF_NOFIRE)
	Loop
	VRKT A 1 A_WeaponReady(WRF_ALLOWRELOAD)
	Loop

Will try it! Thanks a lot

[A.Gamma]

Okay guys, here is Version 0.6

Version 0.6

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-Added Burl Tumd's gore system (with full permission from Eric_, all cheers to him).
-Added Ed The Bat code, weapons shouldn't have -1 tics when out of ammo now.
-Slowed down the festivity rocket launcher charge (again!).
-Removed the decal on the Bass SMG since it caused the kick to also leave bullet decals! Decals are know defined on the custom gun puff.
-Changed Pain Elemental and it's spawned Lost souls blood from red to green.

Enjoy, and let me know if anything is broken.

[Ed the Bat]

Glad I could help.

I'd be trying this out right now, but I already updated my ZDoom engine to the frighteningly broken r4242, and it looks like it could be a day or so before we get a hotfix. I guess I can just roll back to a working engine.

I'm finding Ultimate Freedoom is more fun with this mod attached to it. Granted, some of the monsters will look funny when the new death animations clash with Freedoom's bestiary, but that's to be expected. I think what I like most about this is that the weapons are all rather powerful. They don't feel overly-powerful, but the player also never goes wanting; the relatively small arsenal isn't a problem when every weapon feels useful.

Noticed a few of tiny things so far.
A) the dualies have a very very faint grey spot in the upper-right corner of the first-person graphic. Very hard to see, but once in a while it catches my eye.
B) I'm seeing that Hell Barons now angle their shots by 5 degrees, meaning they fly off to their right (the player's left, if the Baron is shooting at him/her), so one could just stand still during combat if given enough distance.
C) the kick makes a noise when hitting a wall, but is silent when striking an enemy. For that, you'll want to give the kickpuff a SeeSound. And for that matter, you can move the 'wall' sound from DeathSound to AttackSound and do away with the A_Scream command (but make sure the puff exists for at least one tic to let it produce any sounds).

Ah, also just noticed this one: When a gun is out of ammo, it disables the quick-kick altfire. Just change the NOFIRE flag to NOPRIMARY to allow secondary to keep working.

[A.Gamma]

Glad I could help.

I'd be trying this out right now, but I already updated my ZDoom engine to the frighteningly broken r4242, and it looks like it could be a day or so before we get a hotfix. I guess I can just roll back to a working engine.

I'm finding Ultimate Freedoom is more fun with this mod attached to it. Granted, some of the monsters will look funny when the new death animations clash with Freedoom's bestiary, but that's to be expected. I think what I like most about this is that the weapons are all rather powerful. They don't feel overly-powerful, but the player also never goes wanting; the relatively small arsenal isn't a problem when every weapon feels useful.

Hey glad you're liking it!

Noticed a few of tiny things so far.
A) the dualies have a very very faint grey spot in the upper-right corner of the first-person graphic. Very hard to see, but once in a while it catches my eye.

Damn! I was sure I got rid of that. Will clean up the sprite and include it in the next release.

B) I'm seeing that Hell Barons now angle their shots by 5 degrees, meaning they fly off to their right (the player's left, if the Baron is shooting at him/her), so one could just stand still during combat if given enough distance.

Heh, did not know that could happen. I set the custom missile to -5 since I thought it looked like he actually shot from his hand.

C) the kick makes a noise when hitting a wall, but is silent when striking an enemy. For that, you'll want to give the kickpuff a SeeSound. And for that matter, you can move the 'wall' sound from DeathSound to AttackSound and do away with the A_Scream command (but make sure the puff exists for at least one tic to let it produce any sounds).

Will do, thanks for the explanation.

Ah, also just noticed this one: When a gun is out of ammo, it disables the quick-kick altfire. Just change the NOFIRE flag to NOPRIMARY to allow secondary to keep working.

I never use a gun that's out of ammo so I could've never spotted this, thanks a lot.

[Ed the Bat]

The barons have -5 set as their missile's angle, when I'm guessing you might want to try putting that as their horizontal offset. That way it'll fly at the player, and may look less like it came out of their midsection and more like their hands. Play around with it, see how you like it.

[Mav3rick]

new version tested

1... the gore system is... "nah" too much blood jumping all over but no walls have the gore? ¬¬ lol it seems no fit well (personal opinion)
2... Crowd Mower really need to lower the firepower, dunno like 5 or 10 %
3... Crowd Mower hand sprite may get in middle if figthing enemies on lower plane and also may be cut a little so it not take too much screen?
4... Festivity again it need the boom. it will be more rewarding blow a room with enemies than be using it as kind of sniper rifle, didnt use it much since there is no damage radius and to damage many enemies dont work anymore witch cut the gameplay with rooms that have many enemies to kill or damage
5... Festivity can have a big boom or extra explosions by the charge altfire, after the rocket first hit then a chain of explosion may follow
6... 10mm BASS SMG animation, do you think will be able to make it more alive? when shot can be make the barrels retract independent of each other, making it more alive with all the shooting
7... Heavy Hitter shoot sound need to be change for some reason start to sound out of place and lack power

Keep the good work and what new crazy ideas may you add on future

[Ed the Bat]

If I can toss up a quick suggetion... the icons at the top of the HUD show me the ammo, but, if it were me, I'd d something like, say, make the weapon icons translucent, and have them turn opaque once the player has collected the corresponding weapon, to offer an at-a-glance reference of which ones I've picked up. My memory's not as sharp as it was when I was younger.

[A.Gamma]

new version tested

1... the gore system is... "nah" too much blood jumping all over but no walls have the gore? ¬¬ lol it seems no fit well (personal opinion)

Sorry, I can't really agree with you here, I love Burl Tumd's gore system as it reminds me of Shadow Warrior or Blood.

2... Crowd Mower really need to lower the firepower, dunno like 5 or 10 %

Hmmm, I'm not really sure about that, I love it being powerful since it was meant to be a crowd control weapon. Some input from other members will be helpful here.

3... Crowd Mower hand sprite may get in middle if figthing enemies on lower plane and also may be cut a little so it not take too much screen?

Err... I'm not sure I follow. You mean like making the sprite smaller? Or moving it so it will take less space in-game?

4... Festivity again it need the boom. it will be more rewarding blow a room with enemies than be using it as kind of sniper rifle, didnt use it much since there is no damage radius and to damage many enemies dont work anymore witch cut the gameplay with rooms that have many enemies to kill or damage
5... Festivity can have a big boom or extra explosions by the charge altfire, after the rocket first hit then a chain of explosion may follow

You know, this is actually a great idea, will definitely add it to the next version.

6... 10mm BASS SMG animation, do you think will be able to make it more alive? when shot can be make the barrels retract independent of each other, making it more alive with all the shooting

Another good idea, though it will take a while to implement since I will have to redraw part of Zrrion's sprite and I'm not that skilled with photoshop.

7... Heavy Hitter shoot sound need to be change for some reason start to sound out of place and lack power

You mean both of them? Or just the single shot sound? If it's the latter I agree and will change it once I find a replacement.

Keep the good work and what new crazy ideas may you add on future

Thanks, it's good motivation to see people like this.

If I can toss up a quick suggetion... the icons at the top of the HUD show me the ammo, but, if it were me, I'd d something like, say, make the weapon icons translucent, and have them turn opaque once the player has collected the corresponding weapon, to offer an at-a-glance reference of which ones I've picked up. My memory's not as sharp as it was when I was younger.

Heh, I was actually thinking of adding something similar for the next version as surprise content. Guess it won't be so much of a surprise now.

[Mav3rick]

Sorry, I can't really agree with you here, I love Burl Tumd's gore system as it reminds me of Shadow Warrior or Blood.

i know what you mean i played both games too that is why i say the blood no left a trail or splat like those games did... and also i say personal opinion no need to be change and understand your point

Hmmm, I'm not really sure about that, I love it being powerful since it was meant to be a crowd control weapon. Some input from other members will be helpful here.

point taken

Err... I'm not sure I follow. You mean like making the sprite smaller? Or moving it so it will take less space in-game?

yes the sprite is too big and take many space, that is why as you can see no many weapons in doom are made in the angle

You mean both of them? Or just the single shot sound? If it's the latter I agree and will change it once I find a replacement.

maybe will be better both to do a rebalance

and dont worry no need to rush all will come into place

[A.Gamma]

...maybe will be better both to do a rebalance...

Rebalance? What for? Weren't we just talking about sounds? Or did I misunderstood something? D:

[Mav3rick]

Rebalance? What for? Weren't we just talking about sounds? Or did I misunderstood something? D:

yes we are talking about sounds

[Steve1664]

Sorry to bother, but would it be possible to create a mirror for downloading the mod while DRD Team is down?