Cant get monster to ressurect itself with Thing_Raise(0)

[Amuscaria]

Why does this work? I'm trying a beter method to get my Death Incarnate to come back to life without spawning that inivisible arch-vile like actor (since it can sometimes ressurect other monsters near it). Graf told me to use Thing_Raise(0), but i can't seem to get it to work. o_o

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Death:
INCA L 0 A_Jump(192,7)
INCA LM 7
INCA N 7 A_Scream
INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
INCA P 7
INCA Q -1
Stop
INCA LM 7
INCA N 7 A_Scream
INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
INCA P 7
INCA Q 115
INCA Q 0 A_Jump(64,7)
INCA Q 115
INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,1)
INCA Q 115
INCA Q 0 A_Jump(192,1)
INCA Q 115
INCA Q 0 A_Jump(224,1)
INCA Q 115
INCA Q 0 Thing_Raise(0)
INCA Q -1
Stop

[The NUtcracker]

I'm not sure, but you could try making it use a script in a separate ACS file.

[Gez]

It's not Thing_Raise but here's something I've used that is kinda simpler (triming the code from a lot of unnecessary stuff):

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		Death:
			BDEM I 8
  			BDEM J 8 A_Scream
			BDEM KLM 4 
			BDEM N 70 
			BDEM N 0 A_NoBlocking
			BDEM N 0 A_SpawnItemEx("BDemon", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 112, 0)
			stop

As you can see, the monster simply disappears and spawns another monster of the same type. (The actual code has a lot of A_Jumps to randomize the time it takes and even if it resurrects or not.)

[Osiris Kalev]

Well, either use that or try giving the Thing_Raise(0) frame a duration of 1. I'm not sure whether this will make it work or not, but that may be what's causing it not to work.

[InsanityBringer]

Try having it jump to a state after performing Thing_Raise(0)

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INCA Q 0 Thing_Raise(0)
Goto See
INCA Q -1 

You might need to rework your Jump statements though.

[DBThanatos]

The problem in the code, is that the actor cant be resurrected if it isnt totally dead. For example, and archvile cant ressurrect a monster until the death sequence is over, the same happens here. To make it work you must put the ThingRaise in the last frame of the monster, because in the way you had it, you were trying to ressurrect the monster before the last (-1 duration) frame.

This is the code I gave to the DeathIncarnate for ÆoD using the same technique:

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   Death:
       INCA L 0 A_Jump(192,7)
       INCA LM 7 
       INCA N 7 A_Scream 
       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking 
       INCA P 7 
       INCA Q -1 
       Stop
       INCA LM 7 
       INCA N 7 A_Scream 
       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
       INCA P 7 
       INCA Q 175
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,7)
       INCA Q 120
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,1)
       INCA Q 80
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,1)
       INCA Q 80
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,1)
       INCA Q 80
       INCA Q 0                              //dont even know why I left this here
//      NULL A 0 A_Jump(128,2)    //of course you dont need this
       INCA Q -1 Thing_Raise(0)       
       Stop                                 
 //      INCA Q -1 A_KillMaster      //nor the next lines
//       Stop                                

And that must work.


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[Amuscaria]

After some tweeking, i got it to work, somewhat. The only problem is i can't get the monster to respawn ALL the time. Am I doing something wrong here, cuz i really dont see it.

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   Death:
       INCA L 0 A_Jump(192,7)
       INCA LM 7 
       INCA N 7 A_Scream 
       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking 
       INCA P 7 
       INCA Q -1 
       Stop
       INCA LM 7 
       INCA N 7 A_Scream 
       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
       INCA P 7
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(192,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(96,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(64,4)
       INCA Q 115 
       INCA Q 115 
       INCA Q 115 
       INCA Q 115 
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q -1 Thing_Raise(0)       
       Stop

[DBThanatos]

Told you that was the problem

i can't get the monster to respawn ALL the time

if you mean "raise" instead of "respawn", this guy doesnt because of the initial chance of it to not raise.

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   Death:
//       INCA L 0 A_Jump(192,7)
//       INCA LM 7
//       INCA N 7 A_Scream
//       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
//       INCA P 7
//       INCA Q -1
//       Stop
       INCA LM 7
       INCA N 7 A_Scream
       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
       INCA P 7
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(192,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(96,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(64,4)
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q -1 Thing_Raise(0)       
       Stop

The commented lines are the ones that prevents the monster to raise all the time. But I think is too obvious . Now if you really meant "respawn" (like in nightmare skill), I dont see why you even need that , because would be redundant... and impossible if you actually delete the commented lines.



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[Cutmanmike]

Probably unrelated but are you making sure there's enough for the monster to respawn?

[CaptainToenail]

Could you not just use
'goto raise'

[Amuscaria]

Could you not just use
'goto raise'

That doesn't work. It turns the monster into a "ghost" where you can't shoot him but he can shoot you. Atleast the last time i checked. That was what i did when i first sprited the Death Incarnate.

Told you that was the problem

i can't get the monster to respawn ALL the time

if you mean "raise" instead of "respawn", this guy doesnt because of the initial chance of it to not raise.

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   Death:
//       INCA L 0 A_Jump(192,7)
//       INCA LM 7
//       INCA N 7 A_Scream
//       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
//       INCA P 7
//       INCA Q -1
//       Stop
       INCA LM 7
       INCA N 7 A_Scream
       INCA O 7 A_NoBlocking
       INCA P 7
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(192,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(128,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(96,4)
       INCA Q 0 A_Jump(64,4)
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q 115
       INCA Q -1 Thing_Raise(0)       
       Stop

The commented lines are the ones that prevents the monster to raise all the time. But I think is too obvious . Now if you really meant "respawn" (like in nightmare skill), I dont see why you even need that , because would be redundant... and impossible if you actually delete the commented lines.



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I think you mis understood what i mean. I want the monster to be ressurected each time it's killed (with some randomized duration between death and ressurect. The problem is, despite what I did in it's decorate, it doesn't ressurect each time, even though the last frame's action is Thing_Raise. It does most of the time, however. Also, this happens even if there is plenty of room.

[Gez]

The problem is, despite what I did in it's decorate, it doesn't ressurect each time, even though the last frame's action is Thing_Raise. It does most of the time, however. Also, this happens even if there is plenty of room.

A possible reason for why sometimes it doesn't resurrect is if, at the crucial moment where the raise is initiated, there's an obstacle (like a player) blocking it.

Which is why I ended up using spawn instead of raise (same result in the end) with the telefrag flag so that it wouldn't be hindered.

[DBThanatos]

Which is why I ended up using spawn instead of raise (same result in the end) with the telefrag flag so that it wouldn't be hindered.

Actually that sounds as the perfect solution (if handled correctly), because the monster could even be resurrected by another monster before it raises itself , thing that cant be done via Thing_raise(0).


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[Macil]

Could you make the monster call an ACS script in a library with ACS_ExecuteAlways that delays a few tics, and tries to raise the monster, and keep doing that if it doesn't succeed?

[DBThanatos]

I think you mis understood what i mean. I want the monster to be ressurected each time it's killed (with some randomized duration between death and ressurect. The problem is, despite what I did in it's decorate, it doesn't ressurect each time, even though the last frame's action is Thing_Raise. It does most of the time, however. Also, this happens even if there is plenty of room.

Would you please post the actual (problematic) code to make some tests? Im really interested in this matter.


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