Samsara: Extra Heroes (Version C2) + ExMixer (0.81)

[Assassin of Purity]

Current version of Zandronum finally supports the code I used to make my Shrinker/Expander and Holoduke additions to Samsara. Not guaranteed to work in Multiplayer though.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/479b5dzhj90l1 ... t.pk3?dl=0

Feel free to use this code in your own mod. Just give me a credit maybe.

You know, I've been thinking about it, and I have been interested in adding the shrinker and expander in the past before. I can add them, but someone else neither me or Jesh are interested in making shrunk variants of all the enemies, someone else will have to do that if they really want it.

It makes me laugh to see questions asked like whether or not other RoTT characters will be added because I already have something in my builds that's far better than that.

I was only wondering if you'll add them, that's all.

[PixelWAD]

I believe the shrunk variant can be easily done as extra line in the script? Just resize the current sprite?

[Kinsie]

I believe the shrunk variant can be easily done as extra line in the script? Just resize the current sprite?

This wouldn't cover them not attacking while shrunk, or being able to be stepped on.

[PlayerLin]

The only difference between the ROTT characters mechanically is health and movement speed. There isn't much of a point unless you love bloat.

Well,in original game, the viewpoint also different between characters(higher characters with higher viewpoint), but it's still minor thing too(not sure if it affects character's hitbox or something in original), but I agree there is no point has all of them(unless someone want to make a mod for adding remaining RotT characters).

[Ryuhi]

The only difference between the ROTT characters mechanically is health and movement speed. There isn't much of a point unless you love bloat.

Well,in original game, the viewpoint also different between characters(higher characters with higher viewpoint), but it's still minor thing too(not sure if it affects character's hitbox or something in original), but I agree there is no point has all of them(unless someone want to make a mod for adding remaining RotT characters).

An interesting compromise would be to have a CVAR that toggles presets that match each character's specs, aka activates a script that changes viewheight/movement speed/etc when paired with the RotT class.

I always liked the toggles for things like duketalk and Security Officer gravity, so it would be neat if that could be applied to making the team into an adjustable class.

[PixelWAD]

I remember dev mentioned that he played this on Android. It's there any publicly available version to use with gzdoom?

[Shiny Metagross]

This is the thing I've been talking about that's better than adding the other RoTT characters. To me, the concept of that was just pointless, but honestly that discussion kinda made me laugh. Thing is, I had this particular thing up and running for about 3 years, but it's only been recognized by my associates within the last year, because back then I didn't have quite as much influence. Now before I start getting attacked, this IS an ally system, and ally system based off of the marines SgtMarkIV, I personally do not knock off his mod because he has made some really cool things, such as that system, and we've given credit for what's been used. So which enemies get these interesting allies?

• Ian Paul Freeley
• Eleena
• Parias
• Mooman
• Leonard

Thing is, I'm not 100% sure how the player will get their hands on this unique pickup item. Let me know what you all think. I personally thought about giving the player the item after a set amount of kills, but quite frankly there's not really an easy way to determine that without A) Making each and every single enemy give just another kill count item or B) Taking away that set amount of kill counter items, which would be pointless and stupid. C) Creating a flawless script which will not allow the player's to fabricate these items off of rare instances, I've tried it and it's tricky, I tell you!

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The Ally Cell phone pickup. I figured it would make sense to use an image of a phone from the 90s. The characters will dial on the phone and message their allies for help!

Here's two of Eleena's allies in my personal favorite player color, Dan Blaze and Kamechak!

Right now I don't have any sprites of Bubba that will translate. He's fairly new to the system and it's something we just haven't gotten around to. Bubba sorta functions as a holoduke, and he will distract enemies for you!

Thi Barrett and Taradino Cassat shooting a couple Lightning Guards.

Elvis Bubba is a rare variant of Bubba. This guy will make the enemies run away from his terrible singing! I'm not sure what parts of this guy to translate to player's color in order to distinguish who he belongs to, I like his white jumpsuit, but coloring the orange parts will affect his skin.

Kamechak and Dan Blaze standing still along with the Alliance Commando.

All of the RoTT allies standing still.

More Eradicator ally pictures.

More RoTT ally pictures.

Parias along with his friend Baratus.

Eleena with friends fighting bad guys.

Parias with Daedalon in the distance.

Parias, Daedalon, and Baratus collaborating to take down the heresiarch!

More collaboration.

More pictures of IP's allies.

Just look at that GZDoom bloom!

Sit down, boy!

Eradicator collaboration.

They won't blow each other up or kill you or each other, do not worry!

These guys are soooo cool!

Slaying halls of ettins with that lightning magic.

This Lightning Guard probably needs to be fired.

Looks like some Low Guard is gonna get splattered all over the ceiling.

These allies work great for crowd control but I wouldn't count on them for big baddies.

I'll just hide behind the big lizard.

More GZDoom effects. The translations on Hexen allies are a bit... weird. I've done all that I can but honestly, blame the lack of color variety in their sprites. Parias sprites also suffer from this, don't blame me!

They like to stay vigilant.

Hexen allies in creamy white.

Blast em!

These ettin just get torn apart by these guys in so many ways.

Allies from In Pursuit of Greed, featuring the Cyborg, Dominatrix, Mutant, and Lizard.

I'm really running out of ideas for descriptions, I took too many pictures I think.

Blue allies.

[Captain J]

Oooh really superb and unique HUD for the other heroes. They are all interesting!... But one thing, are you going to add other HUD faces for other heroes as well?

[Whoah]

I was thinking you could get the ally pickup alongside the backpack powerup. Or alongside the computer map area powerup

[Douk Nouk Kem]

The RoTT HUD is 100% hot.

[Kinsie]

Thing is, I'm not 100% sure how the player will get their hands on this unique pickup item. Let me know what you all think.

I'd probably go the route Term took with High Noon Drifter and have several options for having them replace other less-common/liked pickups like Invisibility, or to have them replace the pre-existing Allies inventory items in Hexen and Strife.

An option to "cash-in" kill credits for special items might be cool, though... Might be beyond the scope of Samsara gameplay, though.

[Gideon020]

Script error, "samsara_ex-hb3.pk3:decorate/lowang/slot7.dec" line 1211:
Unexpected ';' in definition of 'MagicCircleFlameBall_1C'

This showed up when I tried to run with Samsara 3.666 on GZDoom latest devbuild

[Shiny Metagross]

Script error, "samsara_ex-hb3.pk3:decorate/lowang/slot7.dec" line 1211:
Unexpected ';' in definition of 'MagicCircleFlameBall_1C'

This showed up when I tried to run with Samsara 3.666 on GZDoom

Can't run it through GZDoom yet. If you want to play the current builds, you must use samsara 0.31 and Zandronum.

[Gideon020]

Huh. The front page is somewhat misleading then.

[Shiny Metagross]

Huh. The front page is somewhat misleading then.

I did say I was only linking the files if you wanted to try them over on Zandronum. The reason the topic is work in progress is not only because the GZDoom version isn't ready, but it's also because the next update is intended to be the definitive version.