[0.5A Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom and Heretic

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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Gideon020 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:03 am

Out of curiosity, is there still a plan to put in Alt-Fires for the guns?
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby HAL9000 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:35 pm

Hellstorm Archon wrote:Also, I’ve come to notice that the actual game itself may not have as much variety in terms of decorations. As a result, I feel it would raise the opportunity of taking some liberties (such as dead marines replaced with a bloody version of the player model, gibbed player corpses replaced by a corpse of a marine that’s been mangled beyond recognition, the hanging corpses replaced with dead marines with the appropriate missing body parts, etc.)


I'm working on it (WIP) :D
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Cryomundus » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:08 pm

If you could, please make the decorations a seperate file. Some mapsets use Dehacked to make new monsters out of decorations, and if those decorations are replaced, then all those monsters are broken.
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Captain J » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:30 am

Ouch! So many dead players tried to beat only one map. :P Yeah, can't wait to see them in dead action.
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Gorman Frebmane » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:37 am

such detication towards chasm the rift, it almost makes me some of this stuff was added in that game and expanded to make it a even better experience.
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby -Ghost- » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:32 pm

It feels like the weapons could use a bit more "oomph" in terms of sounds, sense of impact, and blood/fx from enemies. Maybe a bit more blood and gore and snappier sounds? The weapons are more interesting than Quake's, but they still kind of have that bland, weightless feel to them that the Quake set does. I think the more you can expand this and make it your own, the better!
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Hellstorm Archon » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:30 pm

Before I forget, I have a couple of critiques:

-The footsteps the player makes appear to be too quiet.

-The fireballs/zombie spit could be particles or 3D effects to have a more consistent feeling with the rest of the 3D models.
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Enjay » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:35 am

I personally liked the quieter, more subtle than usual footsteps. :)

I have to say that, having played around with this quite a bit over the last few days, once this mod is complete, it will form an excellent "blank canvas" game for people to use for mapping and other mods. I'm going to guess that the original game isn't that well known and hasn't been extensively played by many people so anyone can pick up this excellent resource and make something of their own with it. With the mod providing a complete set of actor resources (weapons, pickups, enemies, decorations) "all" a modder has to do is make a world for them to inhabit.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned in the thread already but the Chasm textures have already been ripped and posted on these forums at least once before, so there's that resource available to modders too for an even more "this is something other than doom" feel to whatever they produce and, obviously, the textures would compliment the style of the actors more than the Doom ones (though many are quite Doomy in appearance).
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Pandut » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:28 pm

Yeah, I prefer subtle footsteps on the player and monsters. It's less distracting.

It feels like the weapons could use a bit more "oomph" in terms of sounds, sense of impact, and blood/fx from enemies. Maybe a bit more blood and gore and snappier sounds? The weapons are more interesting than Quake's, but they still kind of have that bland, weightless feel to them that the Quake set does. I think the more you can expand this and make it your own, the better!

Yeah, some of the weapons need a little more oomph, like the MegaDestroyer. I'm veering away from things like Brutal Doom's method of impact by simply making everything deafeningly loud.

Out of curiosity, is there still a plan to put in Alt-Fires for the guns?

A possibility, yeah. Though not all would have alt fires.

As for progress atm, here's a bit of a sneak of what I'm currently working on;
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The HUD's been reworked and with the help of HAL9000 I'm working on unique 3D gibs for all enemies. In that screen I just gibbed about 10 grunts to show it off aha. Trying to work out some issues with it, like some 3D models spawning invisible and trying to animate em' a bit better so they tumble and toss more.

EDIT: Also! QuakedoomNukem CZ put together a cool Youtube showcase to show things off :D
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Hipnotic Rogue » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:10 pm

This is fantastic. I sunk a lot of time into Chasm many years ago and I've always had a soft spot for it.

I wonder if it would be possible to make your mod compatible with Heretic too? I feel like the monsters and guns would really suit the the Heretic maps and palette. :)
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Pandut » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:50 pm

Hipnotic Rogue wrote:This is fantastic. I sunk a lot of time into Chasm many years ago and I've always had a soft spot for it.

I wonder if it would be possible to make your mod compatible with Heretic too? I feel like the monsters and guns would really suit the the Heretic maps and palette. :)

Yeah, once everything is ironed out, I fully intend on making Heretic/Hexen compatible.

Also, playing this myself for testing purposes, I've ran into a number of hard GZDoom crashes on certain mapsets that have tons of enemies (Specfically maps 20 and beyond on Scythe2). I updated to the latest GZDoom dev build and the issue was resolved. I cannot stress enough: KEEP YOUR GZDOOM UP TO DATE TO PLAY THIS MOD. Pls.
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Captain J » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:29 pm

Having some Minor Crashes and Glitches by running the mod with Old version of GZDoom is kinda Epidemic, still.
Pandut wrote:As for progress atm, here's a bit of a sneak of what I'm currently working on;


The HUD's been reworked and with the help of HAL9000 I'm working on unique 3D gibs for all enemies. In that screen I just gibbed about 10 grunts to show it off aha. Trying to work out some issues with it, like some 3D models spawning invisible and trying to animate em' a bit better so they tumble and toss more.

EDIT: Also! QuakedoomNukem CZ put together a cool Youtube showcase to show things off :D
Hoooooooeeey Oooo Now that looks flawless enough!
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Hellstorm Archon » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:17 am

In regards to the "unkillable and invisible monsters" bug that appears to be showing up, I still don't quite know what exactly is causing it, but perhaps a fix is to apply the -COUNTKILL flag to anything that isn't a monster (possibly applying even to spawners).

Also, another critique is to add something that signifies a turret death (i.e. exploding upon death or smoking turret head).

EDIT: I only clue I got was that playing Entryway on UV, there’s supposedly a total of 44 monsters, but in reality, only 25 monsters, leaving behind 17 invisible and unkillable monsters that are supposedly nowhere to be found.
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Re: [0.2 Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby Hipnotic Rogue » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:01 pm

That's great news regarding Heretic compatibility down the line. I eagerly look forward to it! :)
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Re: [0.1a Release] ZRift - Chasm in Doom (DL link in OP)

Postby HAL9000 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:34 pm

YukesVonFaust wrote:will this mod implement the ability to remove limbs from enemies as in the original game?


Yes, I'm working on it!
It will be added in future releases, probably 0.4
Pandut is currently working on revamped Gibs for 0.3 release.
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