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Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby Nevander » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:24 am

INTRO
Recently I completed the Hell on Earth Starter Pack finally but did not use Brutal Doom and instead used my own cosmetic mods that I normally use for playing anything else normally. There were quite a few things that I could tell were meant to be accompanied by Brutal Doom itself and the mapset was most definitely built and tested with Brutal Doom being loaded. This prompted me to start a "vanilla improver" WAD which fixes and changes things up for loading without Brutal Doom. In addition to that, it also polishes up some minor things that (in my opinion) made it less annoying to play and also enhanced the mapset for vanilla play. There are some things that cannot be fixed without editing the original WAD just due to the nature of how things were made, but they don't cause any problems.

FEATURES
- Fixed most console errors pertaining to missing textures (some are unfixable externally)
- Provided dummy actors to fix the unknown class script warnings when starting the mod
- Completely re-written MAPINFO lump to fix some issues with text screens and intermissions
- Re-written cluster text screens to fit better, sound better, and make more sense grammatically
- Glow effects from Brutal Doom are made part of the actual maps and not mod dependent
- Chairs and many other props made to be non-solid and unpushable to aid map navigation
NOTE: There is an exception, the cardboard box needs to be solid in order to finish MAP14: Warzone
- Fixed an issue with the Duke Nukem 3D gas tanks exploding into a normal Doom barrel
- Lowered the volume of the waterfall and other water sound effects ao they aren't so loud
- Intermissions will now play the title theme music instead of just the standard Doom II MIDI
- Belphegor Boss XDeath state fixed for running without Brutal Doom as to not vanish instantly
- Health of all bosses reduced to compensate for lower damage output of the vanilla arsenal
NOTE: The boss health bars will start already depleted by a certain amount when loading this
- Bombs dropped by jets will not send enemies flying everywhere anymore
- Reduced health of the Panzer tank and German attack dogs
- Lowered the damage of some boss and monster attacks
- Fall damage removed from all maps

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Right now this is for the version of the pack that is currently available. If the pack gets updated in the future, I will update this to take into account any new changes or improvements. Please let me know if you encounter any bugs or anything breaks.
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby SiFi270 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:57 am

You're doing the community a real favor here. I also made an addon like this that's a lot smaller in scope but may also be appreciated. All it does is replace certain voice clips I found particularly annoying (mainly the orders you hear at the very start and the tortured screams towards the end) were replaced with completely silent .oggs, each of them the exact same length as the original. When I put it like that it sounds hilariously inefficient, but to someone as inexperienced as me it seemed like the safest way to not mess anything up. So if anyone's interested, I can link to that too.
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby Voros » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:32 pm

Sweet I briefly played the Stater Pack campaign without Brutal Doom and used things like Ketchup and a reload mod or just plain D4T.

It's nice to see this. It felt too unbalanced in vanilla.
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby Nevander » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:17 pm

SiFi270 wrote:All it does is replace certain voice clips I found particularly annoying (mainly the orders you hear at the very start and the tortured screams towards the end) were replaced with completely silent .oggs, each of them the exact same length as the original. When I put it like that it sounds hilariously inefficient, but to someone as inexperienced as me it seemed like the safest way to not mess anything up.

That would be easy to add although I kinda like them (at least the first radio transmission when all Hell is breaking loose). The torture sounds help me locate the marine dudes so I can put them out of their misery, but can also be easily removed.

You could probably redefine those sounds to point to a null sound like dsempty in SNDINFO, no need to use silent OGGs. Even if you had to include a silent sound file, they can be any length or format, so you could copy dsempty and change the names and it would work too.
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby SiFi270 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:45 am

Thank you very much. I'd upload a file of that but now I've had a new idea I'd like to add to it, namely turning the pouncing imp graphics into blurry silhouettes like a picture of Bigfoot, so that if you're playing a monster mod of some kind it's not as jarring if it turns out not to be a standard imp.
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby Ethril » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:15 am

SiFi270 wrote:Thank you very much. I'd upload a file of that but now I've had a new idea I'd like to add to it, namely turning the pouncing imp graphics into blurry silhouettes like a picture of Bigfoot, so that if you're playing a monster mod of some kind it's not as jarring if it turns out not to be a standard imp.

*pounced by an imp*
"You thought it would be an imp, but it was I, DIO!"
*the imp was actually a vampire on a steamroller*
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby SiFi270 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:36 am

But then if you're playing with one of Skelegant's mods...
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby armymen12002003 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:37 am

Thanks for fixing the intermission text i competed this once before and i noticed the further you got in the game the more the intermission text got real sloppy.
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby MrRumbleRoses » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:20 pm

it would be cool if there was a version for the Extermination Day one. cause i have other mods i wanna use other than Brutal Doom. and not have to worry about certain things that are needed from Brutal Doom itself
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Re: Hell on Earth Starter Pack Vanilla Improver

Postby StroggVorbis » Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 pm

Hey Nevander, if you ever get around to updating this again, I wanted to point out a problem with the mountable turrets. The whole way they're coded is weird to me, but what bugs me the most is that your armor type/class isn't remembered when you dismount. So when you for example mount it with 200 blue armor, it gets taken away until you dismount, at which point it gets returned to you in 200 armor bonuses or green armor respectively, which practically reduces your defense from 1/2 (50%) to 1/3 (33%).
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