Space Hunter: vintage Metroid action UPDATE [4/8/20]

[Combine_Kegan]

Bug found: if you keep holding the Primary Fire to deplete your missiles you'll be able to keep shooting forever. Seems there's no limitation to refiring. Only happens with the missiles too.

And in case you need to know: No, didn't use SV_InfiniteAmmo 1 and that CVAR doesn't work with these weapons. Nor does SV_FastWeapons (changing this to 1 or 2 actually makes the weapons SLOWER)

Oh crapbaskets I knew I forgot a bug that I was supposed to fix before launch. Added to the TODO list, also regarding your earlier remarks and stuff

1. Almost everyone these days uses the secondary fire, so why not make use of it for the bombs instead of reload?

I thought about that early on but I think using the wave and plasma beams is a little more important than the bombs

2. Once we get the Ice Beam we are forced to spend it before being able to use the Power Beam, which is bad. Imagine if you were forced to use all your Plasma and Rockets before being allowed to use the Chaingun in Doom, for example.

That's just me taking pages from the original NES Metroid, where the ice beam effectively replaces your standard shot. Granted the wave beam did the same thing but that's why it has its own dedicated button.

2.1 For this, I'd suggest taking the Metroid Dreadnought approach, where each weapon slot is a beam.
2.2 Of course, if this presents problem for the Missiles, just move the Missile Switch to Reload! Simple.

I don't think I'll be doing multiple slots, mainly because you didn't have such a luxury with the NES Metroid, and there'd be some issues keeping every beam mode visually distinct from one another on the rifle.

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Plus there's a third weapon no one has found, yet.

3. Feels like the Power Beam is a bit thicker than it should. For example: I couldn't shoot the Shotgunguy behind the Red "doors" in Doom 2 Map02

Now this I agree with, I'll narrow it down in the coming update.

[twinkieman93]

I don't think I'll be doing multiple slots, mainly because you didn't have such a luxury with the NES Metroid, and there'd be some issues keeping every beam mode visually distinct from one another on the rifle.

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Plus there's a third weapon no one has found, yet.

Incorrect. I've found it and it's a neat little toy, hehe. Just wish it had its own selection animation, like some kind of energy morphing effect thing. I do feel like its screw attack equivalent is a little underwhelming, maybe, but maybe there's a trick to it like there is with the screw attack itself that I haven't figured out.

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Protip: Hold alt-fire while doing a screw attack to hold onto the zappy charge instead of dispersing it everywhere, and your next primary fire attack is a super strong electric shotgun spray as seen in the trailer.

[Funky Gnoll]

Frozen Demons and Specters don't throw shards when exploding if something (e.g. another Demon) is occupying their space when they explode.

[Combine_Kegan]

I don't think I'll be doing multiple slots, mainly because you didn't have such a luxury with the NES Metroid, and there'd be some issues keeping every beam mode visually distinct from one another on the rifle.

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Plus there's a third weapon no one has found, yet.

Incorrect. I've found it and it's a neat little toy, hehe. Just wish it had its own selection animation, like some kind of energy morphing effect thing. I do feel like its screw attack equivalent is a little underwhelming, maybe, but maybe there's a trick to it like there is with the screw attack itself that I haven't figured out.

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Protip: Hold alt-fire while doing a screw attack to hold onto the zappy charge instead of dispersing it everywhere, and your next primary fire attack is a super strong electric shotgun spray as seen in the trailer.

Oh woops, you shouldn't be able to store it like that, you're meant to fire it off immediately when you hit either fire button, that'll be another thing to fix, also the screw attack is more of a utility than a pure damage dealing item, seeing as while it's out you're able to pass through enemy fire and enemies themselves. As well as constantly emitting explosions and sparks.

Frozen Demons and Specters don't throw shards when exploding if something (e.g. another Demon) is occupying their space when they explode.

Damn it, that was something I thought didn't effect pinkies and spectres, added to the todo list.

[Atendega]

Damn near everything is vertically stretched. Remember to compensate for Doom's weird pixel aspect ratio!

Besides that though, this is actually a really interesting adaptation of the original Metroid's gameplay. I like it.

[twinkieman93]

also the screw attack is more of a utility than a pure damage dealing item, seeing as while it's out you're able to pass through enemy fire and enemies themselves. As well as constantly emitting explosions and sparks.

I disagree, the special attack is definitely the star of the show with the screw attack. It deals so much damage, pretty much anything I point it at short of bosses dies immediately. Why would I phase through enemies and their attacks when I could just melt them instantly?

If you want to incentivize using it for its utility I would make it to where there's little or no cooldown when you simply use it as a mobility/avoidance tool, and reserve the current couple-second cooldown for the special attack function, maybe even make the cooldown longer. To avoid just spamming the jump through hordes to tear them to pieces, you could make the sparks and explosions simply stunlock rather than deal any significant damage.

[tsukiyomaru0]

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Plus there's a third weapon no one has found, yet.

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It was really Groose to find it.

You can also look into putting a Metroid Midi/MP3/OGG pack too, similar to how they did it with Contra Doom.

[Combine_Kegan]

Quick update here, fixed the pinkies not properly ice gibbing, narrowed the player beam projectiles a little, and fixed the infinite missile glitch. I also fixed an issue with powered up missiles not doing proper damage at close range, WOOPS.

I've also buffed the speed and damage output of a few monsters.

[Overacheiver]

Can you remove +COUNTITEM from the armors? Minor detail, but it made me real confused why there was still an item left to pickup.

[Combine_Kegan]

Can you remove +COUNTITEM from the armors? Minor detail, but it made me real confused why there was still an item left to pickup.

Wow I don't even know why the hell I added that flag, I'll add that for the next patch, though if it's alright with you, I'm gonna hold off until some other issues pop up as well.

[Pompous Seed]

Wow, neato. Your shenanigans are always a breath of fresh air, Kegan. Thanks for this!

[tsukiyomaru0]

Spazer doesn't last across levels, but I assume that is intended.

[twinkieman93]

Spazer doesn't last across levels, but I assume that is intended.

It does spawn in berserk spawns so yeah I'm pretty certain that is intended, especially given how strong it is. Plasma spazer is a thing of beauty and now I understand why the Metroid games were so insistent that you never combine the two, hah.

[Doomenator]

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[Combine_Kegan]

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That's pretty damn cool