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ShadowCaster and other fantasy monsters for Heretic

Postby BFG » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:56 am

This is just a simple mod that randomizes ShadowCaster monsters into Heretic.
Each enemy placement in Heretic has been replaced with a randomspawner.
There is forty-four or so added monsters in total.
I am a big fan of ShadowCaster and the Raven Software style sprites are so visually similar to Heretic that I think they fit.
I tried to find other mods that used the sprites and there were only a few here and there and not the entire bestiary.

There is also optional files for HeXen, Witchaven and Dungeons & Dragons: Slayer/Deathkeep monsters, as well as additional files to work with Wrath of Cronos RPG and Brutal Heretic RPG.

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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby BFG » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:33 pm

Update: This version includes Advanced Dungeons&Dragons monsters (Slayer & Deathkeep)
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Craneo » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:41 pm

Hmm, I like this, it's the first monsters-only Heretic mod that I've seen so far (atleast that I've noticed), decided to play it with Wrath of Chronos Lite for Heretic, works pretty fine, thought I have some critiques if you don't mind me putting my opinion, I think some of the monster deaths kinda just go "poof", it would be nice if there was like a "generic gib sprite" to show on monster death, so they don't go just "poof", but that's just my opinion

EDIT: I just played a bit with the "only ShadowCaster + Heretic" version and WoC, I say I like it more personally, and I think all the monsters have actual death frames in that one, it's pretty cool! I wish it had Hexen monsters thought, but it's a great monster mod so far I think
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby neoworm » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:05 am

Wow, I didn't even knew that those DnD 3d shooters existed. Do you have access to all their graphics?
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby BFG » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:22 am

Craneo wrote:Hmm, I like this, it's the first monsters-only Heretic mod that I've seen so far (atleast that I've noticed).

Thank you, I tried to make them in the same style as their original game where they vanish on death but I will make death animations for them. I will add in the Hexen guys for the next update. I wasn't aware of Wrath of Cronos, is there anything that I could to do make it more compatible with that? I made a Brutal Heretic RPG version.

neoworm wrote:Wow, I didn't even knew that those DnD 3d shooters existed. Do you have access to all their graphics?

They can be found over here https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=37442 and https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37544
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Captain J » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:37 am

finally seeing the mod using all the shadowcaster sprites, it seems all the enemies have additional attack rotations as well!
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Gez » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:11 am

Captain J wrote:it seems all the enemies have additional attack rotations as well!

Nope, they just get their movement rotations used as attack rotations. Look at the cloaks for a blatant example, since their shape completely changes when they attack.
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby neoworm » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:18 pm

Wow, I looked at the Shadowcaster sprites and the Baboon is obviously recolored betaversion baby ripper from Shadow Warrior and Boblin is Beta Guardian from Shadow warrior. Those are from Shadowcaster?
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Gez » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:25 pm

Most definitely not.
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Craneo » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:32 pm

Do you mind if I donate some new death frame edits for your project?
credits to Raven Software as I used some other Shadow Caster death frames to make these as well as Heretic ones too.
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They are not that great but I feel your project may benefit from these, I'd like to make more if my PC doesn't die from the constant crashing I've been having this week.
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Valken » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:47 am

This would be awesome as an ADDON to IronTusks?!

Can I ask for a Doom compatible version, or (don't castrate me) Brutal Doom/Project Brutality ADDON version that keeps default mod doom version monsters as well?

OR can we make a patch the creates a new spawner (?) with other mods + this mod's monsters? I am unsure how to go about this.
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby Captain J » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:14 am

Gez wrote:
Captain J wrote:it seems all the enemies have additional attack rotations as well!

Nope, they just get their movement rotations used as attack rotations. Look at the cloaks for a blatant example, since their shape completely changes when they attack.
I did notice that but hey, let's just give kudos for trying to make a full rotation of them. Low effort or not, it looks very promising.

Anyways contribution like what Craneo did might be worth it!
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby BFG » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:33 pm

Those are awesome, I have added them and provided your credit. I would love to make additional rotation sprites for the SC monsters, perhaps that is something in the future!
I have updated the download link with the ideas that you have given me, which I thank you all for. I removed those Alpha Shadow Warrior monsters, they were only there originally as I didn't know which monsters to put in the ghost spawners.
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Re: ShadowCaster monsters for Heretic

Postby irontusk341 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:56 pm

Valken wrote:This would be awesome as an ADDON to IronTusks?!

Can I ask for a Doom compatible version, or (don't castrate me) Brutal Doom/Project Brutality ADDON version that keeps default mod doom version monsters as well?

OR can we make a patch the creates a new spawner (?) with other mods + this mod's monsters? I am unsure how to go about this.

I have looked into the script, and BFG's mod can be adapted to Diablo 3D.
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Re: ShadowCaster and other fantasy monsters for Heretic

Postby BFG » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:05 am

I appreciate you for letting me know, Iron.

Updated the file with a few fixes, but most importantly I changed the painchance for the Centaurs/Slaughtaurs in the HX version, so they are more of a blessing to encounter and not be so quick to block attacks each time. I think that is one of the biggest complaints of those guys is their blocking becomes a chore to deal with.
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