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-25 Added monsters(total is about 250 now) All the new ones are in the video update.
-Added GLDEFS: They we're all missing before because i never added them. Now all the GLDEFS that came with the monsters have been added. I also added them for some monsters that didn't come with them(by using already existing lights from other monsters). I'm planning to add more in future updates.
-New/improved settings and features: -Disable shooting by Demon/Spectre/Lost Soul replacers Instead of stopping those replacers from spawning completely. Now you can disable just those attacks from them. When shooting is disabled some of them might get little faster, or do a new attack instead. It's disabled by default now for better balance. -Monster Mixer Intended for DOOM/ULTIMATE DOOM. These will be added on top of their original replacers. You can have Chaingunguy replacers(reduced health, will drop a shotgun on death) for Shotgunguy. Pain Elemental replacers(reduced health, most should not infight with Cacodemon or it's replacers) for Cacodemon. And Hell Knight replacers(double health) for Baron of Hell. Turn them ON for better monster variety(over 40 more in total)! Keep them OFF for better balance. Not recommended in DOOM II/FINAL DOOM. -Choose what Pain Elementals spawn Lost Souls ONLY Lost Souls + Replacers -Alternate blood colors Lost Soul = no blood Cacodemon = blue Hell Knight/Baron of Hell = green Nothing new... But if you want them you would need a mod anyway. So why not.
-A lot of nerfs/buffs for so many monsters: For example Revenant replacers should be a lot more dangerous now. Some Archvile replacers that couldn't resurrect enemies before, now can. Few examples in the video update.
-A lot of fixes: Few examples in the video update.
January 22 - update:
-I tweaked some spawn chances of different Imp replacers Something I already did for January 20th update. But after I released it, I did little more testing and wasn't completely happy with it. Small change, but it feels a lot better now.
-Baron replacer: ShadowBeast(at 3:55 in the january 20th video update) I limited that fake death thing(the one that spawns the ghosts) which it does sometimes when taking damage, so it can only happen 2 times max. It rarely happened 3 times anyway. But when it did happen, it felt like it was too much for such a short encounter. I actually really like that attack!
-Added a power-up replacer for MegaSphere that gives you 300 health and 300 armor. Only 2% spawn chance for every MegaSphere(power-up replacers can be turned OFF in the menu).
-Imp replacer: Catharsi(the one that spawns a bomb on death that shoots out fireballs after few beep sounds) I added a faster and slower versions of the bomb. Original bomb still spawns 75% of the time.
-2 Hellknight replacers that wields a shield: Hellwarrior and ImpWarlord I decreased the chance for them to block after taking damage. So I could raise their health a little bit to be better as hellknight replacers(or baron when using monster mixer).
-Couple other little changes/fixes
January 25 - update:
-I fixed a sprite issue with PyroImp. There was a wrong explosion sprite at the very end.. and looked weird.
-I made Hell Knight replacers little bit more rare in comparison to Baron of Hell replacers, when using "monster mixer". Monster mixer doesn't and never did affect the spawn chances of the original monster. But instead if a replacer was chosen, then there would be a 50% chance for it to be a Baron or Hell Knight replacer. And because currently Hell Knight only has 6 replacers and Baron has 12. I lowered the Hell Knight replacers chance to 33%, so you won't see the same 6 all the time.
January 26 - update:
-I did minor changes to spawn chances of different Cyberdemon replacers.
-Couple nerfs/fixes.
Hello, This is a mod I originally made for myself. I was desperately looking for a monster randomizer like this, and I couldn't find one. So I started editing "DoomKrakken's Monster Randomizer"... and really liked what it started to shape into. So I decided to start from scratch. So that I can also share this with everyone, in case there's anyone else out there also looking for a mod like this.
The name "Vanilla Doom Plus" might be a little misleading. To me "vanilla doom" just means doom without any extra mods. Playing vanilla style(no jumping etc.), but still using a source port. I use GZDOOM and it's the only source port I have tested this mod with. Works with Doom, Ultimate Doom, Doom 2 and Final Doom. And should work with any mod that only adds maps.
My goal was to make a monster randomizer that only adds monsters. And still would be well balanced, if you're playing maps that have been designed for vanilla gameplay. I've mainly been testing with Ultimate Doom and Doom II.
Every monster that replaces a certain enemy has the same(or smaller) radius and height settings, so they shouldn't get stuck anywhere. Every monster has a specific set of monsters that can replace them. When killed, every monster that replaces shotgunguy will either drop a shotgun or shotgun shells... Same idea with chaingunners and zombieman. This is to maintain ammo balance closer to the original.
I also wanted that each "group" of monsters wouldn't infight other monsters from the same group. For example the monsters that replace imps wouldn't infight with each other at all. I didn't know how I could have done that at first. Thanks to Doomworld user Tango for pointing me to the right direction on how to do it!! It was an easy fix and works very well now. Some enemies do have attacks that can still cause infighting, but I think it's rare enough. And also monsters that replace monsters that normally would infight with each other(like zombies and lost souls) are untouched.
BY DEFAULT SETTINGS: This is a more "subtle" monster randomizer. You'll see a lot of regular monsters(over 50%). It's very much Doom, but there's a lot more variety. There is about 250 added monsters. Some of them just are very rare. More common monsters like imps and zombieman have a higher chance to be just regular versions of themselves.
There is a "REPLACER SETTINGS" menu with A LOT of options for Spawn chances etc.
Spoiler:
Thanks to Doomworld user whatup876 for suggesting for me to do these option menus!
Some power-ups have about 1 out of 30 chance to be replaced by another one. For example SoulSphere can be replaced with LifeSphere which gives you 300 health. And some decoration objects can be replaced by stationary monsters and mimics. These are very rare, and those can be turned ON/OFF from the options menu.
I also have changed a lot of properties of the monsters... Health, painchance, attacks etc. For example if something replaces Baron of Hell. I want it to have ABOUT the same amount of health. And if something is replaced by an enemy that could kill you a lot faster than the original monster. They probably have less health than the monster they replaced. But these are not very common.
Full Ultimate Doom Playthrough on Ultra-Violence (SIGIL included.) I did use a Super Shotgun(using another mod) simply to make it more fun. There's a lot of monsters you won't see in Ultimate Doom, because all the added monsters will replace a specific monster. So no Doom II monsters means a lot less new monsters... Nevertheless, I enjoyed doing this one a lot! And I also updated this mod between each episode. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsWfNu4HzHMsLIJvSqZt_4HVrAF9ssxSq
Final Doom: The Plutonia Experiment MAP29 Odyssey of Noises
Doom II: MAP10 Refueling Base Different playthrough from the full Doom II videos. A lot of different monsters appeared.
(there's been multiple updates since I recorded these videos)
SCREENSHOTS:
Spoiler:
This is far from perfect. That was never the goal. I just had a lot of fun making this. I originally stopped working on this about 9 months ago. At the end of May I decided to do couple minor tweaks to it, and finally share it. I have done a lot of changes since the original release in doomworld! https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106432-vanilla-doom-plusmonster-randomizer-updated-june-30th/
I made this the way I liked it. Obviously thanks to every cool monster made by various people!!
I hope you'll have fun with it too!
Also I am considering to change the name of the mod. I know Vanilla Doom Plus is not a great title. But if I do it, I only wish to do it once. I've also considered names like "Monster Closet 667", because most of the monsters are downloaded from Realm667. Or "Monster Closet (something else)". Feel free to suggest me better names. And let me know if you agree I should change it to something else.
ALL THE CREDIT GOES TO: ID Software (obviously) Raven Software Everyone who have worked on any of these monsters. Realm667 DoomKrakken and DoomKrakken's Monster Randomizer. I used it a lot to see how these things are done in Slade. And huge thanks to Doomworld users: Tango, Bryan T and whatup876!! For helping me to fix couple issues with the mod. And great suggestions.
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I haven't tested any weapon / item / player mods myself. So I can't promise they work 100% with this. Somebody told me that berserk appeared as normal berserk, even though it was supposed to be something different in the mod he was using this with.
The main version is the only one I've done a lot of balancing for. But for some the custom monsters might not appear often enough. So that's why I made those. In future I hope to have menu options for that stuff. So everything will be in a single mod.
Wow, this is actually really well done! I'm really into the "subtle" aspect of spawning the special monsters less, too. I feel like constantly spawning all the crazy monster randomizer not only fucks with the balance too much but also makes you get tired of the special monsters faster. Sprinkling the special ones among mostly vanilla spawns keeps them fresher, longer.
Thank you! That's exactly what I was trying to accomplish with this mod. Some of the more rare monsters do have little bit higher chance to be replaced by custom monsters. For example Pain Elemental has 50/50 chance.
UPDATED JULY 5TH: REPLACER SETTINGS now has A LOT of different spawn chance options!
A missing options is included as an extra .pk3 file. This one comes with a problem:
Spoiler:
(BY ONLY USING VDP-MONSTERRANDOMIZER.PK3 THIS PROBLEM SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AT ALL)
The "VDP-MissingOptions.pk3" adds options for these monsters into the "REPLACER SETTINGS" -menu:
-Baron Of Hell -Mancubus -Arachnotron -Cyberdemon -Spider Mastermind (all the other monsters already have options available without having to load vdp-missingoptions.pk3)
BUT THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM with having these options for those monsters.
In the original games, these maps will be broken:
in ULTIMATE DOOM:
-E1M8 - "BaronSpecial" won't be triggered. Nothing happens after killing the Barons/Replacers.
-E2M8 - "CyberdemonSpecial" won't be triggered. Nothing happens after killing the Cyberdemon/Replacer.
-E3M8 - "SpiderMastermindSpecial" won't be triggered. Nothing happens after killing the SpiderMastermind/Replacer.
-E4M8 - Nothing happens after killing the SpiderMastermind/Replacer.
in DOOM II/FINAL DOOM:
-MAP07 - "Map07Special" won't be triggered. Nothing happens after killing the Mancubus/Arachnotrons/Replacers.
(no matter which settings are on)
I included this "patch", because it only affects 5 maps. And it's a lot of missing options.
Based on my testings, so far. You can use the same save file, whether you play with or without the patch.
So if you know what you're playing.. You can play with the patch, and save before entering one of those maps. Load your save file without the patch. Save again after finishing the map.
Or just use IDCLIP or something, because it's still a lot of trouble for one map here and there.
HOPEFULLY this is only a temporary solution. And I will be able to fix the problem in the future.
Thank you Turin Turambar, I hope you'll enjoy this! And thank you TimeGearCD, I am very glad you had fun! I've had a lot of fun making this so far.
Also another update! JULY 7TH! -Basically the same things, but done better. And I added an option to turn ON/OFF Demon/Spectre/Lost Soul replacers with long range attacks. (check the original post)
Unfortunately, I simply can't get this to work at all. It shows 'Unknown' in all of the replacers when you look at its options menu, and nothing gets replaced in game.
I was using the MissingOptions version, as neither the purely Doom 1 or Doom 2 wad seemed really ideal for me (I use a WadSmoosh including them Ultimate + 2 + Final + Sigil + Masterlevels etc.) along with my usual autoload.
I don't have any problems with other monster replacers (Shades of Doom, Colourful Hell etc.)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/khkaptqr ... P.pk3/file Here's the last version before the config menu was added. As I don't wish to customize the spawns I've stuck with this version. Try this and see if it works for ya, it works fine for me.
When you load any of these three pk3 files: Doom1, Doom2 or MissinOptions. They should autoload VDP-Stuff.pk3, if the files are all in the same location.
I think in your case it's not doing that for some reason. If you also load VDP-Stuff.pk3 manually, I believe it should work.
Sorry for this. Having all these separate files is hopefully only a temporary solution.
Plynthus wrote:If you also load VDP-Stuff.pk3 manually, I believe it should work.
Actually, when I load VDP-Stuff manually along the main file, I get an error telling me that something is doubled (can't remember the details right now) and refusing to load the game. So I have to load only one of the main files, and the rest is loaded from VDP-Stuff.pk3 as it should. I'm mentioning this in hope it could somehow be helpful in your future works.
You're loading it correctly by only loading Doom1, Doom2 or MissingOptions. But I think in eharper256's case the VDP-Stuff.pk3 isn't loading at all for some reason. So I thought I'd suggest to try that.
But yeah, loading any of these files: Doom1, Doom2 or MissingOptions, should autoload VDP-Stuff.pk3
Also Rowsol: Default settings are basically how it was before I added the settings menu. I haven't added anything bigger since. But I will be adding more monsters soon. I would recommend later versions, because I also fix things occasionally.
Maybe the version I posted below would be good option for you:
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It's a single file. And has all the settings for all monsters.
The official games should work correctly. I used ACS scripting to work around the problems with the map specials not triggering in levels like E1M8, E2M8 etc. And just in case there's a backup options menu called "Map Specials":
Spoiler:
The reason I haven't updated the main download yet is that I believe this can cause problems to wads that include scripting. Very situational problems, but still... I just don't think this is THE solution yet. But I think it's the best one by far.
I did also test with WadSmoosh. And E1M8, E2M8 and E3M8 map specials didn't trigger(the "map specials" menu triggers will work though), everything else worked. They work as they should with regular DOOM.WAD, haven't failed once so far.
So as long as you're not playing something that includes much scripting. This version is easily the best to use. And if I don't find a better solution soon. The next main download will probably have it like this. Along with some more added monsters.
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